Looking like Joe Paul is getting affairs in order

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And let me add that it appears that school board members serve five-year terms.

Paul has served two five year terms. His current (third) term would have expired in March 2009.

Subtract FIVE years---Paul just began his new five-year term in March 2004. And he is resigning a month later? (again, I believe these are elected positions, but please correct me if I am wrong.)

So, working from the assumption that these are elected positions, Paul ran for and was elected (or appointed) to his third term in March, and steps down a month later.

Must have been some huge developments between March and April--perhaps a job opportunity deep in the heart of Texas?

Date: Apr 7, 2004

FS: They are definitely elected terms. In sum, verrrrrrrrrry interesting.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Oh, and watch the TAMU student newspaper (The Banner). They will definitely have the news before anyone in South Mississippi!

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Originally posted by: truth4usm
"Oh, and watch the TAMU student newspaper (The Banner). They will definitely have the news before anyone in South Mississippi!"

I mean, The Battalion. Just checked their most recent edition and didn't see mention, but will check back.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

hattiesburg school board members are appointed not elected.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

Joe Paul's second term just expired. To quote joe in the American "I've completed two terms on the school board and I just felt it was time for someone else to take over." If he wished to stay on longer he would have had to ask to be reappointed. Ten years on any school board is probably enough for most people.

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Originally posted by: lddad
"hattiesburg school board members are appointed not elected."

Yes. The board's page says the mayor appoints them. Still, though, Paul wouldn't have accepted appointment in March had he known he was going to be OFFERED the TAMU job.

I wager that he got the job.

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Originally posted by: lddad
"Joe Paul's second term just expired. To quote joe in the American "I've completed two terms on the school board and I just felt it was time for someone else to take over." If he wished to stay on longer he would have had to ask to be reappointed. Ten years on any school board is probably enough for most people. "

Yep, but I know through experience that you are appointed before your term begins. He would have been reappointed prior to March. He accepted his third term and the resigned shortly after his third term began. Two might be enough for many people, but this man has academia running through his blood. And don't you find it more than coincidental that one of the strongest supporters of the school resigned at the same time that TAMU will announce its selection for VP?

Date: Apr 7, 2004

you may be right, but the way the council works items have to be on the agenda a certain number of meetings before they can be voted upon. Joe could have easily let it be known that he did not want to be reappointed a month or two ago and let the process work to find a replacement. That can take time. The announcement was just made, but the process may have been working.

This is consistent with the American's announcement that Joe was just appointed to the united way board of directors. Why accept (or consider) this appointment if you were leaving town? Maybe he wants to spend more time with his family, particularly when you have a 14-year-old.

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Originally posted by: lddad
"you may be right, but the way the council works items have to be on the agenda a certain number of meetings before they can be voted upon. Joe could have easily let it be known that he did not want to be reappointed a month or two ago and let the process work to find a replacement. That can take time. The announcement was just made, but the process may have been working. This is consistent with the American's announcement that Joe was just appointed to the united way board of directors. Why accept (or consider) this appointment if you were leaving town? Maybe he wants to spend more time with his family, particularly when you have a 14-year-old."

Actually, the mayor would have contacted all board members prior to the date their next terms would have been scheduled to begin.

He would have asked them if they would serve an additional term; if they stated "no" then he would begin a search for a replacement prior to the date that the new term begins. And the replacement would be ready to serve as Paul went off the board at the end of his second five-year term. Paul knows this, since he has already served two terms on the board.

When was Paul appointed to the United Way's board? Was it before his visit to TAMU? If so, then we may expect to hear that he is resigning from that position soon, too.

Whatever he decides to do, I wish him well.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

another possibility is that Joe is planning to send his oldest to the expanding Sacred Heart High School. That is a big topic of discussion among parents with h/s age children in Hattiesburg. Wouldn't look good for a board member to do that.

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Originally posted by: lddad
"another possibility is that Joe is planning to send his oldest to the expanding Sacred Heart High School. That is a big topic of discussion among parents with h/s age children in Hattiesburg. Wouldn't look good for a board member to do that."

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Paul is a huge proponent of public education; I can't imagine him sending his child(ren) to a private school.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

For the record, Joe Paul is not packing his bags anytime this semester. If anything, he would be moving during the summer semester. However, I highly doubt that he will make that move, seeing as he is not TAMU's top VP choice. Its my personal opinion that he would probably not move at all unless he is offered a significant increase in salary. That would be the only contributing factor that I could think of to cause him to seriously consider uprooting.

Cheers!

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Originally posted by: KeepingTheFaith
"For the record, Joe Paul is not packing his bags anytime this semester. If anything, he would be moving during the summer semester. However, I highly doubt that he will make that move, seeing as he is not TAMU's top VP choice. "

Where are you getting your information from? My source (anonymous, but highly placed at USM) says that the job is his for the taking. I'm with Fire Shelby on this one. There's no way Joe Paul would send his kids to Sacred Heart, either. He's too much a supporter of public education. Get ready for the Joe Paul Garage Sale!

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Originally posted by: KeepingTheFaith
"For the record, Joe Paul is not packing his bags anytime this semester. If anything, he would be moving during the summer semester. However, I highly doubt that he will make that move, seeing as he is not TAMU's top VP choice. Its my personal opinion that he would probably not move at all unless he is offered a significant increase in salary. That would be the only contributing factor that I could think of to cause him to seriously consider uprooting. Cheers!"

For the record, this semester ends in, what?, five weeks?

Date: Apr 7, 2004

As I recall from the original article in their student paper, TAMU said they would be interviewing the final two applicants this week. If that's true, there must be another explaination for his decision to step down from the school board.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Like I said, lddad, we shall see.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

i agree. although i can offer plausible alternative explanations, you may, in the end, be right. if so, i'll give you a dime. (i'd use a smiley face emoticon but i'm too lame to figure it out)

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Originally posted by: lddad
" I've offered explanations in other posts, but I detect that some people who post are not aware of issues going on in the hattiesburg school district with respect to the new sacred heart high school and the quality of education in the district. i'm around many parents who find the new sacred heart hs an attractive alternative. many of these parents were died-and-true hattiesburg public school supporters, but are giving a hard look at sacred heart. i know joe is a stauch supporter, as are these other parents, but times change. you put your child's education first. also, he's just been appointed to the united way board. maybe he needs a change of scenery. "

Just wanted to add my $.02 as a parent of two children who USED to go to Sacred Heart (after attending HPS for a long time). Believe me, I intimately understand the issues with HPS in a long-term way (I am a product, at least partially, of HPS--I graduated from HHS back in the day). Who knows what Joe Paul is thinking re: his children? The fact remains that merely a week after having it announced that he was a finalist for the TAMU job, he has stepped down from the school board. All we are doing is SPECULATING on the reasons. Unless someone talks to JP himself, no one has the inside scoop on this one.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

Just wanted to add my $.02 as a parent of two children who USED to go to Sacred Heart (after attending HPS for a long time). Believe me, I intimately understand the issues with HPS in a long-term way (I am a product, at least partially, of HPS--I graduated from HHS back in the day). Who knows what Joe Paul is thinking re: his children? The fact remains that merely a week after having it announced that he was a finalist for the TAMU job, he has stepped down from the school board. All we are doing is SPECULATING on the reasons. Unless someone talks to JP himself, no one has the inside scoop on this one.

dear truth4usm:

i agree with most of which you say. but most of what i read on this board (all threads) is speculation. yes, we are all speculating about jp. but if you haven't been in the school district within the last 2 years, and seen some of the issues on tv about direct instruction, then you don't have perspective on certain issues that jp faces as a parent of (as well as any other parent) a 14-year-old. I have two children--one a junior at USM and a senior at HHS--and the school district has changed a lot between the two.

critical thinking teaches me that there is a causal fallacy in assuming that any event occuring after an event is due to the first event (post hoc ....). just because tamu announced he is a finalist and the next week or so he decides he doesn't want to serve on the HPS school board (but apparently wants to serve on the united way board) doesn't mean the two are connected except by the way of a coincidence (or speculation). i know that! i just, on this jp issue, try to keep the discussion a bit on the facts.

Date: Apr 7, 2004

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Originally posted by: lddad
" but if you haven't been in the school district within the last 2 years, and seen some of the issues on tv about direct instruction, then you don't have perspective on certain issues that jp faces as a parent of (as well as any other parent) a 14-year-old. "

Lddad, just wanted to let you know that my kid was in the HPS as of last year. I know all about direct instruction, and it's such a failure. That's actually not why we chose to move our child to Sacred Heart--it was issue of classroom control and harassment by other students. But, since this is waaaaay off topic and I don't want to contribute more to that, let me say that you are right in that we are all speculating on what is going on w/JP right now. Who knows what is connected to what...only time will tell. Either that or a statement from JP himself.

I think we all know that just because JP was announced at TAMU and the following week quit the school board, these events aren't necessarily causally related. But, it's still a possibility, which is what we're discussing here.

Thanks for keeping us on track with our rules of constructive debate, Lddad!

Date: Apr 7, 2004

thanks! i agree. but i do get wound up about critical thinking. I think that we all ought to do is bet a strand of spaghetti on what happens to jp. not that a strand of spaghetti is what jp is worth (cause it isn't), but it's about all that i can afford.