Tim Hudson Interviews

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Tim Hudson Interviews

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Check the follow website for information on the search for University of Texas - Pan American president.

http://www.panam.edu/2000/news/index.cfm?newsid=2687&curtype=release&curbar=news

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Wow, I thought we were all conspiracy nuts! I guess some of us can see around the corner, at least every once in a while.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Hey, you scooped me! (at least half of my news)

My well-placed source told me tonight that there will be an article in the HA tomorrow about Tim Hudson as a finalist for both the presidency at UT Pan American AND Slippery Rock in PA.

He's so outta here...watch out for that Hudson family garage sale.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Advocate
"Check the follow website for information on the search for University of Texas - Pan American president. http://www.panam.edu/2000/news/index.cfm?newsid=2687&curtype=release&curbar=news"

Wow...a publicly-linked CV! No wonder Hudson's not welcome in the Thames administration.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm
"Wow...a publicly-linked CV! No wonder Hudson's not welcome in the Thames administration."

I didn't even notice that. How ironic.

There was a big stink last year when Governor Perry compared Texas to Mississippi. Texas may be ahead of Mississippi in some categories, but that's when you include Austin, Dallas and Houston. Texas border towns are like going into a Third World country; they make Mississippi seem like the most affluent examples of modernity you can imagine. To chose to work at UT Pan American, you must be desperate to get out of the 'burg.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Here's an interesting find...if you go to Tim Hudson's CV on the UT Pan American website: http://www.utsystem.edu/news/2004/UTPAPresFinalists/THudson.pdf

you will see that it is a PDF of a fax...and the date of the fax is right at the top...February 20. Wonder if SFT knew that Tim was looking to leave and THAT'S why he didn't "include" him in the loop in his little vendetta firing of Frank and Gary? (Note to TRUTH watchers: this is speculation on my part. Either way, it's an interesting bit of info).

Date: Apr 19, 2004

Awesome work truth4usm. I thought Hudson's wheels were spinning until today. Maybe he's also had a plan this whole time.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm
"Here's an interesting find...if you go to Tim Hudson's CV on the UT Pan American website: http://www.utsystem.edu/news/2004/UTPAPresFinalists/THudson.pdf you will see that it is a PDF of a fax...and the date of the fax is right at the top...February 20. Wonder if SFT knew that Tim was looking to leave and THAT'S why he didn't "include" him in the loop in his little vendetta firing of Frank and Gary? (Note to TRUTH watchers: this is speculation on my part. Either way, it's an interesting bit of info). "

Nice work Truth --

Date: Apr 19, 2004

More interesting bits gleaned from Hudson's CV:

He states that he is fluent in Spanish (a *must* for this job)

His spin on the 112+ vacant faculty positions at USM?

"Redirected spending and developed a holistic pooled resource approach to underwrite the largest number of national searches for tenure eligible faculty (100+ across all colleges) in the University's history."

(his bold words, not mine).

Also listed among his accomplishments:

"Appointed a faculty committee to overhaul the Faculty Handbook resulting in a broader consensus on a more rational, faculty driven tenure and promotion procedure."

**Truth notes: Huh? Can someone on faculty speak to the veracity of this statement?

Also, this nugget:

"Revamped, re-tooled, and upgraded the Office of Institutional Research."

**Truth notes: This is the very office that produced the faulty enrollment numbers, and which is now without a director (see: Susan Siltanen: "fall girl"). Don't think I'd be putting this little tidbit on my CV if I were Hudson).

It gets better:

"Co-authored with President a presentation to the National Governor Council in San Franscisco (2003) on accountability, innovation, and efficiency in higher education."

**Truth notes: Again, his bold words. How about a presentation on shared governance, credibility, and honest financial dealings?

And, finally, my favorite highlight (from Hudson's tenure as Dean of CICE):

"Hired all CICE Directors to be members of an administrative structure where intelligent people are empowered to make decisions resulting in no turnover within the CICE cabinet in a decade."

**Truth notes: Yes, his bold words again. Empowering intelligent people to make decisions. Yes, Hudson really is in the wrong place...SFT would never make such a mistake.

Date: Apr 19, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: truth4us

"Appointed a faculty committee to overhaul the Faculty Handbook resulting in a broader consensus on a more rational, faculty driven tenure and promotion procedure."

A lie! The original handbook committee (which Gary Stringer was on) was disbanded and Hanbury was handed the job. The faculty Senate was so enraged it barged in and insisted on getting involved. A committee was appointed (I thought by the Prez but if Tim says so then . . . ). There were faculty members (Brad Bond and Bill Taylor but they were appointed by the Pres. (or Provost) and of course Brad is a member of the admin. Then there was Hanbury. And finally, Myron Henry, the only rea; faculty voice there. It was HELL. Ask Myron. At every critical step Myron was in Hanbury's face. He reported to the Senate and the Senate would object to one stupid section after another. It was only due to Myron that the new Handbook has any tenure protections at all.

Damn that makes me SICK.

To all of you doubters out there -- it was the handbook that made the senate as mad as anything.

Truth, baby, you come through again!

Date: Apr 20, 2004

Folks,

I think we should wish Dr. Hudson much success in his job search and save these discussions only if they become relevant to USM in the future...

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Topplethetop
"Folks,
I think we should wish Dr. Hudson much success in his job search and save these discussions only if they become relevant to USM in the future..."

The faculty handbook is very relevant. It is what got us into the Stringer/Glamser firings.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: foot soldier
" The faculty handbook is very relevant. It is what got us into the Stringer/Glamser firings."

Absolutely!

However, I think the message is "Don't go away mad Tim, just go away!"

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Topplethetop
"Folks, I think we should wish Dr. Hudson much success in his job search and save these discussions only if they become relevant to USM in the future..."

Interesting. It is ok to examine Dr. Dvorak's CV but Dr. Hudson is off limits? Sounds like a double standard to me.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: GIGO
"Interesting. It is ok to examine Dr. Dvorak's CV but Dr. Hudson is off limits? Sounds like a double standard to me."

You misunderstand completely...maybe it is that we don't want the potential hiring institutions to look too closely at his resume...because then he might not move...

Date: Apr 20, 2004

May we all chip in and help Tim pack his bags.

Good riddance.

I have found out from high and "well" placed administrative sources, lots of new infomation to go with what I already knew. He is corrupt and does not do things that are best for programs and accreditation. Slippery Rock and Pan Am are perfect fits for him.

Bottom line: Hudson is as much of or potentially MORE of a problem than Thames

His ideas are set in stone and he does not listen any more than the rest of 'em. However, he'd never fire two productive tenured profs the way ST did, he'd do it more intellingently.

No, USM will be a better place with Hudson gone.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

Hey all:

GIGO is right. If we show a double standard then it looks like we are on a vendetta. Hudson's cv clearly needs to be exposed for those items questioned.

Rumor has it he applied to two different places but only mentioned one. He has also applied to a third but it is supposed to be secret. HAHAHAHA

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"Hey all: GIGO is right. If we show a double standard then it looks like we are on a vendetta. Hudson's cv clearly needs to be exposed for those items questioned. Rumor has it he applied to two different places but only mentioned one. He has also applied to a third but it is supposed to be secret. HAHAHAHA"

Big difference between Hudson and Dvorak: his CV is public, hers is not. 'Nuff said.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

Truth:

Your being to "snappy' this a.m. But there is no difference Dvorak's cv is public.

What ****es me off is tha Myron again sold us down the river by not reporting the whole issue of their report and the prior conversations he had. In my opinion Myron needs to pack is Freaking bags.

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quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"Truth: Your being to "snappy' this a.m. But there is no difference Dvorak's cv is public. What ****es me off is tha Myron again sold us down the river by not reporting the whole issue of their report and the prior conversations he had. In my opinion Myron needs to pack is Freaking bags."

The great thing about liberal arts is that those of us who have been trained in the humanities have wonderful reading comprehension.

Might I refer you to the Chronicle of HIgher Ed article linked on my Latest Breaking News page? WAAAngie only let the reporter glance at her CV; when the reporter asked for a copy, she refused. When the Faculty Senate asked for a copy, she refused. And we ARE talking about the original CV she used to get hired. The one she showed the CHE reporter and the one posted all over the internet is NOT the original. If you are privy to the original, please reply so, and offer it to the Faculty Senate, who is yet to see it.

As for Myron--that's non sequitur to this discussion.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

I hate to rain on anyone's parade. However, I have known Tim Hudson for a long time, and he is a bright, hard-working administrator. Moreover, he is a very caring individual and is otherwise well-qualified to become an outstanding university president.

I find it amazing that all you USM "supporters" seem to get so much pleasure out of demeaning someone who has contributed a great deal to our institution and certainly is a local "success story." A pat on the back would be much more appropriate.

Too bad that USM may lose Tim Hudson. We will be poorer if we do.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"Truth: Your being to "snappy' this a.m. But there is no difference Dvorak's cv is public. What ****es me off is tha Myron again sold us down the river by not reporting the whole issue of their report and the prior conversations he had. In my opinion Myron needs to pack is Freaking bags."

Sorry for my attitude, but where is Dvorak's CV? She guards it like it was a state secret. The Faculty Senate is still waiting for a copy.

Myron Henry made several reports back to the Faculty Senate on the handbook issue, to my knowledge. Present Professor or someone else correct me if I'm wrong.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: formerprof
"I hate to rain on anyone's parade. However, I have known Tim Hudson for a long time, and he is a bright, hard-working administrator. Moreover, he is a very caring individual and is otherwise well-qualified to become an outstanding university president. I find it amazing that all you USM "supporters" seem to get so much pleasure out of demeaning someone who has contributed a great deal to our institution and certainly is a local "success story." A pat on the back would be much more appropriate. Too bad that USM may lose Tim Hudson. We will be poorer if we do. "

I'm not anti-Hudson. In fact, if you'll look back to prior discussions, I was taken to task by some board members for praising him. My only problem with him right now is that he is a "non-voice" in what's happening to Frank and Gary. His silence is deafening (along with Joe Paul's silence). Even so, I also think USM will be poorer for losing both Tim and Joe.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

Truth:

My apologies but why is it folks have seen her cv? As far as Myron he is lying and has lied to us.

He is responsible for screwing us on the faculty handbook 11.3.

Hudson has also lied just ask Gary and Frank!

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"Truth: My apologies but why is it folks have seen her cv? As far as Myron he is lying and has lied to us. He is responsible for screwing us on the faculty handbook 11.3. Hudson has also lied just ask Gary and Frank!"

Questions, two responses for you:

1) The CV of a VP for Research at a publicly-funded institution should not be on the "endangered species" list with only rare sightings. It should be public information. If you live in MS, then YOUR TAXES pay her salary. You should demand to see this document along with everyone else in MS. We have many instances now that are documented where she has either refused to show her CV or provided alternate versions of it or done some other smoke-and-mirrors trick with it. This is unacceptable behavior from an employee in a PUBLIC institution.

2) I have no personal knowledge of Myron Henry's lying or not. From what I've seen, my opinion is that he has acted bravely and honorably throughout all of the crisis (and beforehand).

3) I also don't know about Hudson lying...what proof do you have of this? Did he lie to Frank and Gary? Fess up what you know.

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quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"Truth: My apologies but why is it folks have seen her cv? As far as Myron he is lying and has lied to us. He is responsible for screwing us on the faculty handbook 11.3. Hudson has also lied just ask Gary and Frank!"

If Myron is responsible, then why is Hudson taking credit for it?

Quote from Truth and Pres Prof above:

"Appointed a faculty committee to overhaul the Faculty Handbook resulting in a broader consensus on a more rational, faculty driven tenure and promotion procedure."

A lie! The original handbook committee (which Gary Stringer was on) was disbanded and Hanbury was handed the job. The faculty Senate was so enraged it barged in and insisted on getting involved. A committee was appointed (I thought by the Prez but if Tim says so then . . . ). There were faculty members (Brad Bond and Bill Taylor but they were appointed by the Pres. (or Provost) and of course Brad is a member of the admin. Then there was Hanbury. And finally, Myron Henry, the only rea; faculty voice there. It was HELL. Ask Myron. At every critical step Myron was in Hanbury's face. He reported to the Senate and the Senate would object to one stupid section after another. It was only due to Myron that the new Handbook has any tenure protections at all.

Damn that makes me SICK.

To all of you doubters out there -- it was the handbook that made the senate as mad as anything.

Truth, baby, you come through again!

**************

By you calling Henry a "liar," you reveal your bias. But might I ask in what capacity you feel you are informed enough to charge Myron with some plot re: the handbook?

Date: Apr 20, 2004

Hudson does not lie so much as he does not care for "quality" or accreditation.

He is too opinionated and is not too much for faculty governance. Yes, he has been silent when he should not have been and has yet one single time to complement the fine faculty for the great work they do at below market wage.

Hudson is a nice guy and will make these schools an OK president, and he seems to fit the smaller school mold.

We can do better. I do wish him well.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm
"I'm not anti-Hudson. In fact, if you'll look back to prior discussions, I was taken to task by some board members for praising him. My only problem with him right now is that he is a "non-voice" in what's happening to Frank and Gary. His silence is deafening (along with Joe Paul's silence). Even so, I also think USM will be poorer for losing both Tim and Joe."

Thanks for your comment. President Thames has indicated that he did not consult the Provost prior to taking action to terminate Professors Stringer and Glamser. Subsequently, as someone who works for and at the pleasure of the President, it would be inappropriate for Tim Hudson to make his concerns public. Unless he leaves his position, I would be very disappointed if he were publicly disloyal to the President.

I believe that Tim is a strong advocate for the faculty within the administration. For everyone on the outside looking in, it is easy to say what we would do differently if we were Provost. I remain covinced that the faculty is better having Tim in the administration than we would be without him.

Date: Apr 20, 2004

FS:

I respect you and will not argue nor fight with you. But I have NO bias. If you only knew!

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quote:
Originally posted by: Questions
"FS: I respect you and will not argue nor fight with you. But I have NO bias. If you only knew!"

I don't mind open debate--not one bit. It's just that when people come here to call people like Doty or Henry "stupid" or "liars" I tend to get my dander up.

Let the debate continue--let's just refrain from the insults.

I don't know who you are, and I haven't checked any IP addresses, and I won't. The only IP addresses I check are those of blatant disruptors--EatMe, Sage, Eat****--the ones who call other members of this board ugly names or spam the message board with repetitive ugly messages in multiple threads.

I prefer not checking IP addresses unless I absolutely have to. It's time consuming, and, frankly, a pain in the a$$ to have to dig through over 3000 IPs.

I am adding these comments on IPs because I want everyone to know that I don't monitor them unless trolls are hitting the board.

So, in a nutshell, I don't know who you are, and really have no concern to know who you are. As long as we can discuss issues here in a civil tone, then I have no need to look at IP addresses.

Good day,

FS

Date: Apr 20, 2004

FS:

You are right. Sorry. But those two have always rubbed me bad.

As far as Serg and Eat me--they are skanks.

Date: Apr 21, 2004

Tim Hudson's vita is now up on the Slippery Rock Website. Candidate #2 - he is there now. Candidate #1 is the sitting interim dean.