quote: Originally posted by: truth4usm "I'm fairly sure he signed the petition...will have to double-check, though."
There are quite a few retiring from CoST. They just aren't on your list. Another from Chemistry is David Creed. There are others from Biology, Physics, etc.
although he does not fit your time line andy griffin (interim provost) decided to leave when he found out that st had applied for the presidency. 6 months before Shelby became president he made 8 predictions, all of which have come true. gave me a good perspective on what to expect.
quote: Originally posted by: lddad "although he does not fit your time line andy griffin (interim provost) decided to leave when he found out that st had applied for the presidency. 6 months before Shelby became president he made 8 predictions, all of which have come true. gave me a good perspective on what to expect."
Iddad -- curious about the predictions you say Andy made. I haven't heard them.
I liked Andy a lot. I was sorry to see him go. I think he'd have served us well. He serves me as a good example of an "enlightened" administrator.
quote: Originally posted by: CoST faculty "There are quite a few retiring from CoST. They just aren't on your list. Another from Chemistry is David Creed. There are others from Biology, Physics, etc."
CoST faculty,
If you are certain please list names. I know that CoST is aggressively hiring. Chemistry hired 1(or was that 2?), Physics hired 2(maybe 3), Math was turned down by their first choice (I don't know the reason given), and Dean Gandy was quoted in the press as saying CoST hired the first choice in 10 of 12 hires.
i can only share two, because I would "out" myself. He predicted shelby would become president and he predicted he would "self-destruct" in two years. He made many more specific predictions that have come true as well. I guess that's why he left.
It's nice to see you back, Iddad. You've been a good contributor to the board and I was not at all offended by your statistical arguments with the grad student from LSU - thought it was what academics were supposed to do! I was concerned when you said you had visited another research university that you were one of the people leaving.
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Originally posted by: lddad "i can only share two, because I would "out" myself. He predicted shelby would become president and he predicted he would "self-destruct" in two years. He made many more specific predictions that have come true as well. I guess that's why he left."
thanks topplethetop. I needed time away from the board. it gets a bit addictive and more-than-a-bit depressing. I don't plan to leave. I'm just trying to figure out how to make the best of a bad situation. I'm looking to the future trying to figure out how you turn USM around to the direction it seemed to be going a few years ago (I have to admit I wasn't hot about Fleming either).
quote: Originally posted by: lddad "i can only share two, because I would "out" myself. He predicted shelby would become president and he predicted he would "self-destruct" in two years. He made many more specific predictions that have come true as well. I guess that's why he left."
By chance, did Andy predict that Shelby's "self-destruction" would result in him not serving the full four years as president???
sorry, but don't know. i don't think he'd be surprised by what has happened. with self-destructive people it's hard to make a precise prediction about when the event will occur. you just know it will. kind of like the "big one" earthquake in california.
quote: Originally posted by: lddad "thanks topplethetop. I needed time away from the board. it gets a bit addictive and more-than-a-bit depressing. I don't plan to leave. I'm just trying to figure out how to make the best of a bad situation. I'm looking to the future trying to figure out how you turn USM around to the direction it seemed to be going a few years ago (I have to admit I wasn't hot about Fleming either). "
"turning the ship around"
"rebuilding"
"restart"
We are all of us going to be working on this project together and soon, I hope. I really look foward to meeting most of you face to face and working to actively affect the next presidential search and to help our university recover.
quote: Originally posted by: Otherside " CoST faculty, If you are certain please list names. I know that CoST is aggressively hiring. Chemistry hired 1(or was that 2?), Physics hired 2(maybe 3), Math was turned down by their first choice (I don't know the reason given), and Dean Gandy was quoted in the press as saying CoST hired the first choice in 10 of 12 hires. Otherside "
CoST is hiring very few new faculty. The hires are replacements, although a few hires are for vacancies a year or two old. Many departments in CoST lost faculty over the past three or four years to budget cuts like everyone else.
i also "speculate" (note--I'm labelling it for what it is) that faculty in COST have their own coping mechanisms for dealing for ST. They've dealt with him for years. some merely "duck and keep their head low."
I saw someone on the departure list from COST that has been a long time coming. his wife was in another area, had a problem, lost a lawsuit, left, and he is now moving. just waited out his retirement.