PLEASE STOP WITH ALL THIS TALK THAT A UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE A BUSINESS. Has no one taken basic civics? First:
Like most every other country on earth, the United States has more than one institution. Let me remind you of three: private enterprise, the military, and the university. Private enterprise is an institution certainly and many on this board are quite familiar with its rules and requirements. But it is so disheartening to be among adults and have to explain that private enterprise is not the only institution recognized by American law. After all, have we forgotten another institution called the military? The military, as a distinct and unique institution, has its own rules, and they are not the same as private enterprise’s rules. Did you know, or just forget, that the military even has its own legal system and courts? Have people forgotten that our society recognizes the military as a distinct institution?
Another fine institution along with private enterprise/business and the military is the American university. How is it possible that so many intelligent people have forgotten this basic social fact? Just as the military has its own distinct code, and just as private enterprise does, so too do universities. These codes are recognized and codified in case law going back at least 100 years. In fact, the United States tax code DOES NOT ALLOW a state or public university to be a business. It requires private enterprise to operate according to a different standard than a tax exempt public university. Is that so hard to fathom? A public university must be a non-profit tax-exempt organization. It would be frankly illegal for a university to trade its social, institutional role and act as a business. More than the IRS would disapprove, so, too, would over a century of precedent in case law.
So if a university like private enterprise and the military is a distinct, even unique institution what one element makes it unique? One word: "professor." That word refers to a unique profession that has no synonym and no equivalent IN ANY OTHER AMERICAN INSTITUTION. The law recognizes and understands this unique status, and this unique profession. Say what you want about this profession the simple fact is that in the law it is a recognized distinct institutional category dependent entirely on a unique concept applicable only to this one profession and one institution. That concept is called "academic freedom." Because the concept, "professor," can only exist in the institution of a university and no where else it has for the past 100 years been legally protected as a profession in a distinct body of law that defines and protects "academic freedom." Much of that law, by the way, will be brought to bear in the Whiting suit next month I would suspect. In any event, the right to free inquiry and free speech for professors in the unique, special environment of a public university goes beyond the expectations of like professions in business, and the military. The law quite severly limits speech both in private enterprise and in the military. But just as stringently it protects that same speech in the institutional environment of the university. That is what America is about. This is not conservative, liberal, or what have you. This is just basic American civics. It is basic law. In short, professors and universities are special unique and recognized as such in law. Why is it so difficulty to understand that the university and private enterprise ARE DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT UNDER THE LAW.
There are many on this board who care only for a business model. Fine, lets talk simple business. Why do business folks suppose that grants alone generate money and economic development? Pick the top ten state research universities in the United States. Do they have a strong commitment to academic freedom? Do they have shared governance? Do they bring in Nobel prizes, patents, students, etc and spend their salaries and wages in the local economy. Might academic freedom be tied to financial stability and success? It is almost tragic that I have to remind people on this board that every grant USM attains is TAX EXEMPT. The local economy of Hattiesburg realizes virtually no money from any grant attained by USM. Most of its money is spent out of state in goods and services, and none of the other money is taxable. Only wages and salary are taxable. In the actual business reality of Shelby Thames’ administration over 200 professors making at least $50,000 a year each have left the local economy. They WERE NOT REPLACED.
Business people talk real business. The median income around here is not above $26,000. Yet Thames in just two years has managed to lose for this local economy over 200 jobs paying double that. A conservative estimate of $50,000 average salary per person means Shelby lost Hattiesburg at a minimum 10 million dollars of taxable revenue (Clint do you read that number ok?) Now add in all the relatives, friends, and family of those 200 people that spent taxable money here and ask yourself? Where is the business sense in supporting that loss. Be realistic. How many of those 200 lost tenure track, often tenured jobs were replaced? Lets say as many as 40 if you want to be generous. Fine. But spin how you will, if I were a serious business man I would be mad as hell that this guy lost the local economy so many millions of dollars in taxable income. If I were a small business owner I would be even more angry to have lost so many customers with disposable income in an income bracket damn rare in these parts. I cannot help but wonder why small businesses continue to support a man that loses the only money generating engine this particular institution, USM, has to offer the economy? Salary and wages.
quote: Originally posted by: RealityCheck "Media Klumb, AG Hood, and the rest of the IHL forgot."
Reality Check:
Another fine institution is "the court." There too speech is restricted and regulated according to specific rules. As it happens, NONE OF THE THAMES ADMINISTRATION ACTIONS, not one, has entered that institution. The courts have had no chance to speak to the issues. What we witnessed from March 5 to April 30th had a lot to do with lawyers but NOTHING TO DO WITH AN ACTUAL COURT. I still feel confident that when the business model collides with the academic model, when Pileum and other nefarious business practices meet the academic community in a real court of law things will be far different.
quote: Originally posted by: RealityCheck "Media Klumb, AG Hood, and the rest of the IHL forgot."
Reality Check:
Another fine institution is "the court." There too speech is restricted and regulated according to specific rules. As it happens, NONE OF THE THAMES ADMINISTRATION ACTIONS, not one, has entered that institution. The courts have had no chance to speak to the issues. What we witnessed from March 5 to April 30th had a lot to do with lawyers but NOTHING TO DO WITH AN ACTUAL COURT. I still feel confident that when the business model collides with the academic model, when Pileum and other nefarious business practices meet the academic community in a real court of law things will be far different.
Maybe it is time for someone to remind them. My understanding of the IHL board is they are all business men, no educators.
Media, you should step forward and send your words to the IHL board so they can get the full impact of what is happening to Hattiesburg. Along with other business leaders, little shop owners, for what is happening at USM has a direct effect on all of you. As yes, I fear they may have forgotten what happens to a community when income leaves.
I can address that from a military standpoint. Look around the country at what happened to many communities where the military base closed. Their economy dried up, jobs were lost and people suffered. I do not know if there are military bases in Mississippi, but think of what would happen if they closed. What would the impact be?
Read the white papers linked to the IHL website - they are all about "economic development" and they provide a great deal of background material to understand what the board sees as its mission and what, in turn, this administration (as viewed in the best possible light) has been trying to accomplish.
Being more knowledgeable about this will help in the framing of arguments going forward.
quote: Originally posted by: Patti " Maybe it is time for someone to remind them. My understanding of the IHL board is they are all business men, no educators. Media, you should step forward and send your words to the IHL board so they can get the full impact of what is happening to Hattiesburg. Along with other business leaders, little shop owners, for what is happening at USM has a direct effect on all of you. As yes, I fear they may have forgotten what happens to a community when income leaves. I can address that from a military standpoint. Look around the country at what happened to many communities where the military base closed. Their economy dried up, jobs were lost and people suffered. I do not know if there are military bases in Mississippi, but think of what would happen if they closed. What would the impact be? "
I am a faculty member in the College of Business and Economic Development. To suggest that the model being used by the Thames administration is a business model is beyond my understanding. As a business model, Thames and company fall very short. I do not know of any board of directors who would leave a CEO in the job when 92% of his employees have no confidence in his managerial ability. This is the message of the no confidence vote by the faculty and should be the message for the college board.
I would ask my friends who own thier own business and members of the college board, "would you leave a manager in place when 92% of his subordinates felt he was incompetent?"
We can argue about the use of a business model for running a University or an alternative model. The bottom line, I believe, is not the model but gross managerial incompetence. Shelby, Hanberrry, and the Divoraks handled Frank and Gary poorly under any model of managment.
Finally, for my friends in the business sector, I vote Republican. You need to understand that the rejection of Shelby and company is not just the extremist but almost universal among the faculty and staff.
quote: Originally posted by: observer " I am a faculty member in the College of Business and Economic Development. To suggest that the model being used by the Thames administration is a business model is beyond my understanding. As a business model, Thames and company fall very short. I do not know of any board of directors who would leave a CEO in the job when 92% of his employees have no confidence in his managerial ability. This is the message of the no confidence vote by the faculty and should be the message for the college board. I would ask my friends who own thier own business and members of the college board, "would you leave a manager in place when 92% of his subordinates felt he was incompetent?" We can argue about the use of a business model for running a University or an alternative model. The bottom line, I believe, is not the model but gross managerial incompetence. Shelby, Hanberrry, and the Divoraks handled Frank and Gary poorly under any model of managment. Finally, for my friends in the business sector, I vote Republican. You need to understand that the rejection of Shelby and company is not just the extremist but almost universal among the faculty and staff."
I think maybe you misread someting in my previous post.
I am saying that the business leaders need to go to the IHL board and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I'm losing income because of how Thames is running the university, or shall I say running people off the university. I have never, nor shall I say that a university should be run as a business. Simply due to the fact it isn't, it is a school, where learning takes place, where knowledgeable individuals impart their knowledge into the minds and hearts of their students. It isn't a money making insitution, or at least it shouldn't be.
Granted, I am an outsider, and I do not know all of the facts except for what happened to two professors. But I do understand what happens to economies when families leave and business fails. Mr Thames needs to be stopped dead in his tracks before any more harm can come to your community. This is what I meant by suggesting that the business leaders go to the IHL board and remind them of the impact that this is having. And my comment about the IHL members being business people themselves, they understand what happens. What if this affected THEIR business, would they sit idle and do nothing to salavage. Would they leave a manager in place who was losing them business?
But I did not say that the university was a business. Please go back and read that again.
Regardless of the model, certain managerial attributes are necessary. Whether a business, nonprofit, university, church, hospital, etc. there is one overriding management principle that is crucial.
Each day, a manager must get employees (people that report to him/her) to provide discretionary effort. No business or nonprofit can survive for long if each employee does only enough to get by. History has shown that you cannot beat people into providing that extra effort. Even the military, which has more power over individuals than any other organization, depends on leadership to motivate and manage. This is particularly true in the U.S. military where historically first Lieutenants lead men/women up the hill in the charge rather than drive them. SFT, as an administrator, was born to be a failure. He has no capacity to lead, only coerce. That is why he failed in his previous try as an administrator, and that is why he is a failure today. An underlying flaw in people that cannot lead is that they both distrust others and hold others in contempt. As things unravel, SFT will turn on some of his supporters who peel off because the costs of supporting him are too high. Many of his supporters will get treated to the real SFT in the next very few weeks he has left.