Thames Meeting with Board

Date: May 9, 2004

Thames Meeting with Board

Date: May 9, 2004

The Board knows the other side of the story. Unfortunately, they so far have refused to act upon the truth. A representative from the other side would be like giving Frank and Gary and Adelman the same amount of time a few weeks ago.

Date: May 9, 2004

We have all seen quotes by Roy Klumb. He is a major problem in this issue. If it were up to him, tenure would be removed from universities and faculty would not question higher authority.

Date: May 9, 2004

Perhaps we ought to petition the board to have a spokesperson from the faculty, either Neil McMillan or Myron Henry, be present and present the faculty position when next they meet (20th?). THis could be put before Newton and perhaps she could accomplish?

Date: May 9, 2004

Is Myron Henry or someone from Faculty Senate delivering Friday's resolution in person? I assume it had been sent already, but maybe bringing it in person would have symbolic weight. I think it would be worth it to bug IHL to have Myron Henry speak.

Date: May 9, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: foot soldier
"Is Myron Henry or someone from Faculty Senate delivering Friday's resolution in person? I assume it had been sent already, but maybe bringing it in person would have symbolic weight. I think it would be worth it to bug IHL to have Myron Henry speak."

Resolution will be delivered by the middle of the week. The Board has so far made it very clear it considers only the Presidents of the U's to be each university's "voice."

I'm always struck in these kinds of situations that when workers speak out it is always assumed it is because they are being self serving but when a President speaks he has ONLY the good of his corporation (or university) in mind. We have all seen clear recent examples of CEOs who are quite willing to pillage a company in their own behalf, or use the idea of "change" to enhance their personal status with the authority to whom they answer.

Date: May 9, 2004

some of you forget that some board members may remember myron from when he was provost. i'm not sure they are impressed with him based on past experience.

Date: May 10, 2004

Faculty, faculty, faculty....

The university personnel consist of more than just faculty. What about the individuals who do most of the work with little of no recognition???

Staff are affected by the happenings on campus too!!

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quote:
Originally posted by: concerned for Southern Miss
"Faculty, faculty, faculty.... The university personnel consist of more than just faculty. What about the individuals who do most of the work with little of no recognition??? Staff are affected by the happenings on campus too!!"

We have discussed staff numerous times on this message board. Feel free to start a thread with your concerns.

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: concerned for Southern Miss
"Faculty, faculty, faculty.... The university personnel consist of more than just faculty. What about the individuals who do most of the work with little of no recognition??? Staff are affected by the happenings on campus too!!"

In fact Myron made a pointed reference to staff last night on the show. It is true we must not forget staff -- the most vulnerable constituency here. I suspect that vulnerability makes staff less able to be visible and hence easier to overlook.

Thanks for the reminder.

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: concerned for Southern Miss
"Faculty, faculty, faculty.... The university personnel consist of more than just faculty. What about the individuals who do most of the work with little of no recognition??? Staff are affected by the happenings on campus too!!"

As a former USM staffer, I hear you! What happened to Staff Council? It used to be very active, but I've heard nothing from them during this crisis.

Date: May 10, 2004

The Staff Council on the coast is afraid to speak against any of the current administration!

Date: May 10, 2004

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Originally posted by: usmstudent
"We have all seen quotes by Roy Klumb. He is a major problem in this issue. If it were up to him, tenure would be removed from universities and faculty would not question higher authority. "

But the "cleaning house" references suggest another possibility here.

While Klumb may wish to abolish tenure everywhere in the system, he seems to be getting support from others only when he targets tenure at USM.

It's time to challenge Klumb and those who are siding with him on the Board to explain to the public whether they are trying to destroy USM, or prepare it for takeover by another university in the system.

When reporters start asking them what their true agenda for USM is, the Board's political context will change, markedly.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
" But the "cleaning house" references suggest another possibility here. While Klumb may wish to abolish tenure everywhere in the system, he seems to be getting support from others only when he targets tenure at USM. It's time to challenge Klumb and those who are siding with him on the Board to explain to the public whether they are trying to destroy USM, or prepare it for takeover by another university in the system. When reporters start asking them what their true agenda for USM is, the Board's political context will change, markedly. Robert Campbell "

Excellent point Bob.

We need to start making these points in public and asking these questions.

Date: May 10, 2004

Where do the presidents of the other institutions of higher ed. stand in all of this? Any friends?

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Originally posted by: cockeyedoptimist
"Where do the presidents of the other institutions of higher ed. stand in all of this? Any friends?"

I know where Bob Khayat stands. Let me just say "astonished."

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by:
"I know where Bob Khayat stands. Let me just say "astonished.""

Well, FS -- do tell. "Astonished" could mean . . . either way.

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quote:
Originally posted by: present professor
"Well, FS -- do tell. "Astonished" could mean . . . either way. "

Let me add that he thinks it's "horrible."

I have a dear friend who is closely related to him. She has discussed this with him. She said that he can't believe what Shelby is doing. He is astonished as in the bad kind of astonished.