Clean House?

Date: May 10, 2004

Clean House?

Date: May 10, 2004

Flash,

I'm not being original in my thinking here, but...

I think the imperative to "clean house" means getting rid of any faculty members who might criticize the administration. (Power-hungry administrators are remarkably tolerant of "dead wood," so long as the unproductive faculty comply with their dictates. On the other hand, they often single out productive faculty members for ill treatment.)

And it may be reserved for USM because there is a plan to reduce USM's status in the system, insure that it can't be a rival to Mississippi State, etc.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 10, 2004

alumni association-where art thou? I just got my application for membership-I will join gladly-if the assoc. speaks out against this. I know a good letter was written by , I think a Ms Montague, but we need current outrage from the organization!

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: cockeyedoptimist
"alumni association-where art thou? I just got my application for membership-I will join gladly-if the assoc. speaks out against this. I know a good letter was written by , I think a Ms Montague, but we need current outrage from the organization!"

The value of a person's degree is tied to the current state of their university, not what it was when they graduated. If the university slides into mediocrity, faculty members will leave or refuse to come, and students will transfer or go elsewhere. Alumni have a lifetime affiliation. Ultimately, they are the ones who must step up.

If this were going on at State or Ole Miss, somebody big would quietly step in behind the scenes and stop it to preserve their investment. It would not be the faculty. Where are our alumni?

Date: May 10, 2004

My sister informed me that the alumni association has sent more than one pro-thames emails out to the members. My sister knows they are BS, but that is the main source of 'what is going on at USM' for a lot of Alumni.

Fire Shelby · Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by: flyonthewall
"My sister informed me that the alumni association has sent more than one pro-thames emails out to the members. My sister knows they are BS, but that is the main source of 'what is going on at USM' for a lot of Alumni."

Your sister is correct.

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Flash Gordon
"Where are our alumni?"

First, USM does not have the sheer numbers of "big money donors" that MSU & Ole Myth have. Second, the few "big money donors" that USM does have are courted to support the president rather the institution. This is what makes folks like the Hartwigs or Bobby Chain all the more remarkable.

Another note is that USM alumni have always had an "inferiority complex." That's why Shelby Thames, a USM success story, gets support from alumni. Frankly, I don't know of a single Ole Miss alumnus who would tolerate a president at UM who was 1/10th as objectionable as Thames.

They get class. We get crass.

Date: May 10, 2004

Good Morning All:

Some news from over the weekend. If this is not the right thread FS would you let me know or could you move it to a place you feel is appropriate, thanks.

A really detailed and long discussion took place as we golfed this weekend regarding who would be selected as interim Prez assuming SFT is ousted.

From some very reliable sources this information was gathered and I hope is useful. A.D. is not even a consideration, so we will not get hung up on small stuff. We need to focus on the problem.

Here is the kicker!!! Hudson has been actively lobbying the board members. His interviews afar were just practice. He has spent the last two weeks fervenlty discussing this issue and pleading with his top supporters like Ricki Garrett, Virginia Newton and Scott Ross (who he took to France last year paid for by Cont. Ed. .)

These sources say that there has been the discussion that he feels he can "make us act mature!" Hudson has stated that "he can bring peace to the campus and that he has more than enough support to do so."

This is a serious threat to us. We need to put as much focus on Hudson as possible to prevent this. If need be the sources can help but it really needs to handled from the inside.

We cannot let the same person who has shown his hunger for the throne by Sh***ing on us.

Feedback is welcome.

Will Lisa Mader escape with clean hands on all this???

NQ

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Flash, I'm not being original in my thinking here, but... I think the imperative to "clean house" means getting rid of any faculty members who might criticize the administration. (Power-hungry administrators are remarkably tolerant of "dead wood," so long as the unproductive faculty comply with their dictates. On the other hand, they often single out productive faculty members for ill treatment.) And it may be reserved for USM because there is a plan to reduce USM's status in the system, insure that it can't be a rival to Mississippi State, etc. Robert Campbell"

Dr. Campbell, Your comment (above) that there may be a plan to ". . . reduce USM's status in the system, insure that it can't be a rival to Mississippi State, etc." is interesting. Might one cog in that plan, if there is such a plan, be to ultimately divide USM's two administratively related campuses (USM Gulf Park, USM Hattiesburg) into two independent, non-related, "regional" institutions, rather than maintain one "comprehensive university" with two campuses such as exists today? Each would have its own distinctively unique name and no administrative ties. I am reminded of how there was once an "LSU/New Orleans (LSUNO). The LSUNO campus became the University of New Orleans (UNO). UNO seemed to flourish after that. Dividing the resources between two administrativey independent "regional" schools might go a long ways toward reducing the status of the Hattiesburg campus within the system. Thus, there would be two "regional" public institutions in South Mississippi, rather than one "major comprehensive university." Sort of a "divide and conquor" approach. I may be way off base, but that came to mind when I read your posting.

Date: May 10, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Mississippian in Exile
"Dr. Campbell, Your comment (above) that there may be a plan to ". . . reduce USM's status in the system, insure that it can't be a rival to Mississippi State, etc." is interesting. Might one cog in that plan, if there is such a plan, be to ultimately divide USM's two administratively related campuses (USM Gulf Park, USM Hattiesburg) into two independent, non-related, "regional" institutions, rather than maintain one "comprehensive university" with two campuses such as exists today? Each would have its own distinctively unique name and no administrative ties. I am reminded of how there was once an "LSU/New Orleans (LSUNO). The LSUNO campus became the University of New Orleans (UNO). UNO seemed to flourish after that. Dividing the resources between two administrativey independent "regional" schools might go a long ways toward reducing the status of the Hattiesburg campus within the system. Thus, there would be two "regional" public institutions in South Mississippi, rather than one "major comprehensive university." Sort of a "divide and conquor" approach. I may be way off base, but that came to mind when I read your posting. "

But that would seem to be contradicted by the recent centralizing of much of GC's administrative operations in Hattiesburg wouldn't it?

Date: May 10, 2004

Does anyone have addresses, phones, or email ads. for alumni leadership?