Quiet, I've copied and pasted your question from an earlier thread for convenience of those reading.
So, what were the reactions of the Board members?
Did they buy the "I can make them act mature" line? (Does that mean we are currently acting IM-mature?)
RE: Clean House?
Good Morning All:
Some news from over the weekend. If this is not the right thread FS would you let me know or could you move it to a place you feel is appropriate, thanks.
A really detailed and long discussion took place as we golfed this weekend regarding who would be selected as interim Prez assuming SFT is ousted.
From some very reliable sources this information was gathered and I hope is useful. A.D. is not even a consideration, so we will not get hung up on small stuff. We need to focus on the problem.
Here is the kicker!!! Hudson has been actively lobbying the board members. His interviews afar were just practice. He has spent the last two weeks fervenlty discussing this issue and pleading with his top supporters like Ricki Garrett, Virginia Newton and Scott Ross (who he took to France last year paid for by Cont. Ed. .)
These sources say that there has been the discussion that he feels he can "make us act mature!" Hudson has stated that "he can bring peace to the campus and that he has more than enough support to do so."
This is a serious threat to us. We need to put as much focus on Hudson as possible to prevent this. If need be the sources can help but it really needs to handled from the inside.
We cannot let the same person who has shown his hunger for the throne by Sh***ing on us.
Feedback is welcome. Will Lisa Mader escape with clean hands on all this???
To answer your question regading the board members the sources say the named members were attentive. There was no confirmations made. This is typical and Hudson manuvers in this mode. Hudson's promises may make the board think he is the best person, God forbid!
As to how we are acting, Hudson will use any sales pitch to get his way. We have learned this the hard way.
It is time for everyone to understand that the IHL Board members are not going to intervene and run the University of Southern Mississippi. Not that anyone has specifically suggested they should, but board members are being bombarded with a problem without being offered a solution. All they are being told is Shelby must go and national searches should be conducted for qualified individuals. No one has developed for them a plan to see that the university runs smoothly in the interim. That doesn't mean that they won't act and it doesn't mean they won't make sweeping changes. But, as a Board of Directors, they will see their collective role as approving or disapproving a plan; they will not see their role as developing a plan. It is time for university leadership to come up with a scenario that the faculty and staff can live with and that is going to mean a compromises. The board members will not have unlimited attention span or patience for the USM situation and they will never delve into it in the detail that those who are are committed to the future of USM will. Make it easy and simple for them - give them a plan.
In a separate post yesterday, I suggested a compromise. More importantly, I asked people who didn't like the compromise that I suggested to offer alternatives. 340+ hits and 14 responses later and you know how many alternative plans we had? ZERO. I have no pride of authorship - that's not the issue. The issue is that the board will do nothing if nothing is proposed to them, no matter how much unrest they continue to see. If the only plan they have comes from Tim Hudson (and rest uneasy that he is putting one together), then that might just be the plan that they accept. For everyone who is saying Shelby must go at all cost, you are being incredibly naive about the cost of a Tim Hudson presidency. The very nature of the way Tim Hudson operates will not allow protection from him despite recommendations about limiting his scope. Shelby is going to go - he will never get another term - he may not finish this one but if Hudson wins the powerplay, then USM will be stuck with a slicker, more dangerous, and more corrupt enemy in the dome. If there is any hope of bringing integrity to the Office of the President at USM, then Tim Hudson cannot occupy it.
Very cogent points. Who, however, should be the entity or person to develop and present the plan? FacSen? It would have to come from a fairly powerful source to be accepted. The Hudson/Newton lunch is worrisome.
My personal plan would be to install Hollandsworth or someone like him as interim, assuming you could get the desired person to give up their present position for an interim appointment. Remember a lot of these people went on to bigger and better things and might not be interested in coming back. Or Cotton as prez and Hollandsworth as provost (and we only need one provost).
I do not know if this helps but here is the scenario. Hudson has made a living throwing knives into the backs of his prey only to wound them long term when killing them would have been better. The prey on lives in misery when its best option would be to expire.
quote: Originally posted by: Voice of Reason? "It is time for everyone to understand that the IHL Board members are not going to intervene and run the University of Southern Mississippi. Not that anyone has specifically suggested they should, but board members are being bombarded with a problem without being offered a solution. . . . If there is any hope of bringing integrity to the Office of the President at USM, then Tim Hudson cannot occupy it."
I am sure lots of "plans" are being suggested -- you aren't hearing about them because the Board isn't going to FireShelby for its sources.
The only agency that can make a change is the Board. We have at least one recent precedent and that is MUW. The Board is reluctant to establish a second precedent so near the first -- but the truth is that only they can act. My guess is that the first thing they will do is try to get Shelby to resign voluntarily and so save themselves themselves from an unpalatable admission of their own mistake.
There is no "plan" for the Board to develop or to ratify: there is, however, a procedure in place for what happens when a President dies, resigns, or is fired. The one thing that isn't clear is the WHO -- as in who will be interim president. There have been lots of suggestions -- I think the reason you haven't gotten any hits is that there ismn't much to say here beyond what has already been said.
I agree with much of what you say about Hudson. I also think that virtually the entire faculty at this university is aware of his tendencies. No one is fooled. I also think that no one connected with this administration will survive for long once Shelby goes away.
I repeat: No matter what Tim believes about himself, he does not have the academic weight to run this university. Shelby was a viable inside candidate because he had national standing in his field as well as (albeit tainted) administrative experience and lots of political pull. But compared to Khyatt and Lee and their Provosts, Hudson isn't even in the ballgame as an academic leader. I didn't even think he had enough weight to be Provost -- he only got thatposition because he was appointed and because, at the time, he was Shelby's boy. Since then he hasn't exactly accredited himself well as Provost . . .
The Board, silly as it may be at times, will not find Hudson an acceptable long-term alternative. Virginia is working Hudson because she needs a plan to propose. She's a smart lady and I sispect that Hudson isn't the only name on her list. And while Klumb may have an agenda -- I doubt that all on the Board agree that the university needs another whip . . . .
Time will tell. Hudson is slick but his slickness has worn thin. After a while all Lotharios lose to overexposure.
quote: Originally posted by: present professor "The one thing that isn't clear is the WHO -- as in who will be interim president."
There is the possibility that the University could function without an interim president until a national search had been conducted. This may sound unorthodox, but I've seen it happen. (In that case, the college board -- not IHL -- simply gave the statutory authority for whatever presidents actually have to sign off on to the chief academic officer.)
Another possibility is that IHL would hire a professional "interim president." There are quite a few retired presidents who are doing this actively these days. The best ones out there are already experienced in patching up seriously damaged institutions. My bet is that Dr. James Rogers at SACS has a neat little short list of names, free for the asking.
quote: Originally posted by: Invictus Another possibility is that IHL would hire a professional "interim president." There are quite a few retired presidents who are doing this actively these days. The best ones out there are already experienced in patching up seriously damaged institutions. My bet is that Dr. James Rogers at SACS has a neat little short list of names, free for the asking. "
That's one of the better ideas so far, somebody with experience, stature, no enemies, and no secret agenda.
quote: Originally posted by: Invictus " There is the possibility that the University could function without an interim president until a national search had been conducted. This may sound unorthodox, but I've seen it happen. (In that case, the college board -- not IHL -- simply gave the statutory authority for whatever presidents actually have to sign off on to the chief academic officer.) Another possibility is that IHL would hire a professional "interim president." There are quite a few retired presidents who are doing this actively these days. The best ones out there are already experienced in patching up seriously damaged institutions. My bet is that Dr. James Rogers at SACS has a neat little short list of names, free for the asking. "
Actually I had considered but didn't mention the first. The second is a new one for me. Interesting idea . . .
Listed below is one 'alternative' scenario for the departure of SFT.
However, the caveat is that, since the IHL Board created the situation by not doing this in the first place, that they're not likely to do it 'right the second time' -- with that, the 'interim plan for the administration of USM':
1) SFT resigns
2) The IHL board names Don Cotten as 'interim' university president and Jim Hollandsworth as 'interim' Provost of both campuses.
3) The new 'interim' administration reluctantly accepts the following resignations: Lisa Mader, Angie Dvorak, Mark Dvorak, Tim Hudson, Jay Grimes.
I like the idea of hiring a presidential 'temp' to get USM back on track. While Jim Hollandsworth and Jim Williams are available, as they retired from USM, Don Cotton is still very much employed and should not be asked to give up his job just to provide a temporary fix.
But all three should be considered for the permanent position that will hopefully be open in the very near future.
quote: Originally posted by: hostage 3) The new 'interim' administration reluctantly accepts the following resignations: Lisa Mader, Angie Dvorak, Mark Dvorak, Tim Hudson, Jay Grimes. What a dream, eh?"
quote: Originally posted by: hostage " 2) The IHL board names Don Cotten as 'interim' university president and Jim Hollandsworth as 'interim' Provost of both campuses. "
I think Dr. Cotten ought to be left out of the "plan" for two reasons: (1) he shouldn't have to give up his present job for a temporary position, and (2) he should be free to apply for the "regular" presidency at USM.
quote: Originally posted by: Invictus " I think Dr. Cotten ought to be left out of the "plan" for two reasons: (1) he shouldn't have to give up his present job for a temporary position, and (2) he should be free to apply for the "regular" presidency at USM. "
From what I know, the people at Arkansas State really appreciate Don and would hate to see him leave. Big surprise.
quote: Originally posted by: educator "From what I know, the people at Arkansas State really appreciate Don and would hate to see him leave. Big surprise."
Last week's (May 4) news leads one to question Dr. Cotten's position at Arkansas State: