"Never once has he or any other anti-USM board member or politican (pro SFT types we have around here) inpugned or intimated that Ole Miss and Mississippi State have professors that are lazy and worthless; not once have I heard that they have nay problems worth cleaning out.

It is only right here, this one. How can that be when USM people are paid up to ten thousand dollars less than Ole Miss and State, yet teach many more credit hours per person. The data is clear. We have been the LEAST place that needs cleaning out."

Greedy -- ZING.  I asked several days ago about things I was told in 2002 -- that the whole agenda is control of the Coast and the $$ thereof, and got no responses.  I do think that non-business types (academics) really don't know how to think in those terms, or resist thinking in those terms. 

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Originally posted by: Greedy
"What I have noticed on this forum, rather consistently, is that every time a well thought-out, well reasoned commentary on the actual or "de facto" conspiracy theory, very few seem interested. It has everything to do with a sinister crassness, an almost football rivalrous plan of battle field attack. Many of our academics are just too honorable and to see the visciousness of the Delta. It is sad. They have found willing combatants to carry out the defacto dismantling of USM, and even have local business folks who can make money off USM now on board. The tentacles then get very complex at how this thing branches off into various alumni "segments", some of purely athletic persuasion, some "political", some purely profiteering on tax money. All this is found in Bok's book. It was just so easy to have the "perfect storm" in South Mississippi while the fat Delta schools sit up there where few people live and laugh their heads off at the unending quagmire down here. Our professors are just too humane to see the agenda that Roy Klumb has so blatantly bandied around every opportunity he gets. Never once has he or any other anti-USM board member or politican (pro SFT types we have around here) inpugned or intimated that Ole Miss and Mississippi State have professors that are lazy and worthless; not once have I heard that they have nay problems worth cleaning out. It is only right here, this one. How can that be when USM people are paid up to ten thousand dollars less than Ole Miss and State, yet teach many more credit hours per person. The data is clear. We have been the LEAST place that needs cleaning out. It is right there yet no one picks it up since, as Myron Henry said on TV, "it just can't be true." "

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Cossack's point is well made.  The value of it is that it accomodates greedy's sentiment as well, given that an actual conspiracy doesn't have to be in the works, only something that looks and smells like one.  It's all the same.  They are both right when they say none of this would last 10 minutes if it were going on at State or Ole Miss.

Case in point, everyone knows Jackie Sherrill is a corrupt football coach.  He's gone and MSU is being heavily investigated by the NCAA.  What does IHL Board member Scott Ross think?  He lambasts the NCAA in the Clarion Ledger, and right after the suspensions of Glamser and Stringer down at USM.  He tells the reporters he doesn't think the firings, a 40-0 facsen vote, and a 430-32 vote merit consideration at the next regularly scheduled board meeting, much less an emergency meeting before that.

The mentality of the Klumbs and Rosses etc. is, assuming it's not a conspiracy, "Who cares? It's not my school.."  You see, it all works the same.  Either they are conspiring to bring USM to its knees or they're letting Shelby and others do it (while profiting off it in the process).  No difference. 

One final point --- these 1950-something graduates and all these business types that bombard the papers with pro-SFT letters hate college professors (always have, always will).  This has become a spectator sport for them, at least until football season gets here. 

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Originally posted by: Old Admin
""Ockham's insistence on the use of parsimony (we might call it minimalism) in thought resulted in some later writer's invention of the term, Ockham's razor. Among his statements (translated from his Latin) are: "Plurality is not to be assumed without necessity" and "What can be done with fewer [assumptions] is done in vain with more." One consequence of this methodology is the idea that the simplest or most obvious explanation of several competing ones is the one that should be preferred until it is proven wrong. " Stupidy vs Conspiracy. My vote is for "stupidity" in the name of good ole boy friends."

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Old Admin:

In this case you may miss Cossack's point.  The outcome of conspiracy and that of stupidy is the same, therefore stupidity=conspiracy.  It doesn't matter.

I don't know how well those who want to break down USM are organized--I think you'd need to be privy to their conversations and their back-room deals to know.

But, as I said a couple of days ago, I don't doubt that Shelby Thames would be a "useful idiot" for such people.   Because Thames could tear down a university, while telling himself that he was building it up (i.e., that he was aggrandizing himself).

And perhaps Roy Klumb is one of those who wants USM to fall, or be taken over--or maybe he is also a useful idiot.

But I do find it persuasive that Thames-like behavior would not be tolerated by the Board, if it came from a President of Ole Miss, or Mississippi State.

And I'm an academic...

Robert Campbell