Robin Robinson speaks in the HA today....

Date: May 24, 2004

Robin Robinson speaks in the HA today....

Date: May 24, 2004

Does anyone really believe she has gotten more pro-SFT letters/calls? Maybe she is counting Klumb more than once.

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Tiger
"Does anyone really believe she has gotten more pro-SFT letters/calls? Maybe she is counting Klumb more than once. "

No, but she sure is investing in telling the media that. Wonder if that's in Roy Klumb's playbook, too?

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH
"No, but she sure is investing in telling the media that. Wonder if that's in Roy Klumb's playbook, too?"

That should read:

No, but she sure is invested in telling the media...

Date: May 24, 2004

It looks to me as though Robin Robinson isn't one of the Board members who can be alienated from Roy Klumb's position...

Whoa!

Robert Campbell

Date: May 24, 2004

I hear from several good sources that the anti-Thames calls and letters to the Alumni Association outnumber the pro-Thames calls and letters 10 to 1. Also, any of the several recent online newspaper polls have been anywhere from 80 to 95% anti-Thames.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Robin Robinson is seeing more pro-Thames calls and letters. Just isn't believable.

Date: May 24, 2004

Somebody needs to send the IHL the link to the on-line petition, which now contains well over 600 anti-SFT signatures.

Oh, wait -- I already did. Did RR read that message?

Date: May 24, 2004

OK, that's it - no more Sanderson Farms chicken in my house - it's Tyson's yardbird from here on out. It is Ms. Robinson's chicken plants that make certain parts of South Mississippi smell so bad anyway.....

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer
"Somebody needs to send the IHL the link to the on-line petition, which now contains well over 600 anti-SFT signatures. Oh, wait -- I already did. Did RR read that message?"

Thank you, USM Symphathizer!!!!

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Magnolia
"...
I find it extremely hard to believe that Robin Robinson is seeing more pro-Thames calls and letters. Just isn't believable."

Maybe Thames gave out her address to his friends. The FS list of addresses is for the old board. We need the addresses for the NEW IHL board members posted.

Date: May 24, 2004

I thought Ms. Robinson was a hot-shot, super-duper smart business person? That's what we were led to believe. I'm amazed that with only one month on the IHL and one meeting, she is able to stake out definitive positions and speak authoritatively on these issues. Have any of the other new members jumped into the fray so assertively? She's one month into a 12 YEAR term. Surely a wise person, and especially a prudent business person, would take a few months at least before making alliances and staking our positions on such controversial positions.

Frankly, this is the closest yet I have come to real despair, and a feeling of wanting to throw in the towel, pack up my folks and my cats and move to the west and say to heck with USM. This is OUR board member. The only hope I have now is that when she and Mr. Klumb begin to move aggressively on tenure (which they obviously do not understand) they will finally rouse the brethern at Ole Miss and State who have been silent too long.

Date: May 24, 2004

I think we have a great opportunity with Ms. Robinson. Read the article very carefully. She is local and has remained local, so has an interest in USM succeeding. She is active in public service and may see the IHL Board as a way to establish a legacy. She may have stumbled early on by falling under the influence of Klumb, get along with the good old boys to get in where the power is. Carefully word the letters, don’t tell her what she needs to know tell her what she already knows and expand on it. If cultivated properly we may have a friend.

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Eagle
"I think we have a great opportunity with Ms. Robinson. Read the article very carefully. She is local and has remained local, so has an interest in USM succeeding. She is active in public service and may see the IHL Board as a way to establish a legacy. She may have stumbled early on by falling under the influence of Klumb, get along with the good old boys to get in where the power is. Carefully word the letters, don’t tell her what she needs to know tell her what she already knows and expand on it. If cultivated properly we may have a friend."

Point well-taken, Eagle. Twelve years is a long time, and much can change.

Date: May 24, 2004

I know that it is hard for you guys to understand that Thames has a great deal of support from the community and alumni in general. Weather you want to believe it or not.

It is very possible that she's recieved a large number of pro-Thames emails and letters.

But, look past yourselves for a moment, and look at this hire without the blind hatred you have for Thames.

Barbour screwd USM with this appointment. This individual is employeed by Sanderson Farms...owned by M$U supporters and alumni. They as a group paid more than $50k to Barbour's campaign in what amounted to buying this job for their "girl" so she can look out for the best interest of M$U, not Southern Miss.

This is the real problem, not Thames, he's on his way out and you guys can't see it.

Date: May 24, 2004

Expect no grasp of what consitutes fair dealing from Robin Robinson. The chicken farming industry in which she works-Sanderson Farms having graciously consented to allow RR to "serve" on the IHL--is right up there with meat packing in terms of anti-worker labor practices.

I wouldn't be surprised if I saw that Ms. Robinson listed credentials in "union avoidance tactics"--neo-liberal speak for union busting--on her resume.

I think I feel an attack of vegetarianism coming on . . .

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker's Risk Manager
"This is the real problem, not Thames, he's on his way out and you guys can't see it."

Seeker--

One of the great barriers to communication is the inherent ambiguity of pronouns. When you say "This is the real problem. . ." you know exactly what you are talking about. I don't. Same with "he is on his way " and "can't see it."

If you mean the great underlying problem is that the IHL board is biased in favor of UM and MSU, I agree. If you mean that the established power and wealth base in Mississippi is heavily aligned in favor of UM and MSU, I agree. If you mean that the governor and legislature are more likely to be swayed by interests aligned with UM and MSU, I agree. If you mean that Shelby Thames is on his way out, that he can do no more damage to USM before he goes, that he is only a pawn so he can be ignored, then I disagree.

But I hope you are right.

BTW, I think you meant "whether" instead of "weather," but I really do like "screwd." Wasn't it Emerson that said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker's Risk Manager
"I know that it is hard for you guys to understand that Thames has a great deal of support from the community and alumni in general. Weather you want to believe it or not. It is very possible that she's recieved a large number of pro-Thames emails and letters."

I'm perfectly willing to believe that she has received pro-SFT messages. What bothers me is that she doesn't mention at ALL being aware of all the evidence of anti-SFT sentiment, such as the on-line petition, the consistently anti-SFT results of local media polls (he never scores anything higher that 25%, and in fact he usually fares far worse), or the voluminous number of messages sent by anti-SFT folks. It is the fact that her comment was so one-sided that made me highly suspicious of her objectivity.

Date: May 24, 2004

<OBLIGATORY PARTISAN JAB>
Will one of the Republicans on this board please tell me if the progressive destruction of USM is an official but unpublished plank in the party platform? Or is it just the rich, influential members of the party that want to drag USM down?

If YOU voted for Haley Barbour, Robin Robinson is exactly what you wanted. (If you didn't think this was going to be his approach to higher ed, you slept through all those speeches that he wrote for Reagan.)

So shut up already & let the lady get on with the master plan!
</OBLIGATORY PARTISAN JAB>

Date: May 24, 2004

Jab received, Invictus. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me whether Gov. Musgrove would have made better appointments. One name was mentioned, but I didnt' query further because I know nothing of that person and didn't want to drag a name in here unnecessarily. Who on the board was appointed by Musgrove, and what has their stance been? What of the other three Republican appointees?

Most Republicans I know, and I speak mostly of family and close friends, value freedom as much as you do.

Date: May 24, 2004

Sorry but what kind of appointees would one expect for Gov. Barbour?

Maybe as we write, we should compile a count on FireShelby--sort of like the petition and the who's leaving USM lists.

Date: May 24, 2004

Until we elect "one of our own", we will continue to see Southern Miss get second class citizen treatment. We knew Muskgore was rat, and suspected that Barbour probably was as well. But, we didn't have any choice, so we all held our nose, closed our eyes, and hoped for a dangling chad.

Southern Miss people must ban together, put aside party politics and vote Southern Miss alumni into office. I have been told that USM alumn and PSC Mike Callahan is planning to run against Amy Tuck next time. I have also been told that you may see Southern Miss alumni Phil Bryant seek a higher office, and we need to get behind a young Rep like Randy (Bubba) Perice who is turning heads in Jackson.

Clean Slate on Campus and in Jackson.

Date: May 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker's Risk Manager
"Clean Slate on Campus and in Jackson."

I'll agree with you on all that!

BTW, lest my earlier posts be taken as too "vindictive," some of my best friends are Republicans. And Virginia Newton was a Fordice appointee. So I'm certainly not saying that all all Republican appointees on the board are dangerous ideologues.

It's just that the "run government as a business" type is characteristic of R's & not D's.

Musgrove was a proven rat about putting a USM person on the board. At least Barbour did that. No matter how much we might dislike some of Robinson's ideas, we may assume that she has some sense of loyalty to the institution. I hope there are no tenured professors out there who might've given her a D- in their class