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Originally posted by: elliott
"Here are my problems with her resume.. 1. She gets all these degrees but she never seems to be located where the schools are during the time period.  For instance, she has full time employment in Panama City from 1981 to 1985, yet she emerges in 1984 with an M.S. from Florida State, which is over in Tallahassee.  I believe FSU has a branch over in Panama City, which is where I bet she got the coursework done.  From 1983-1985 she is in Panama City and from 1985 to 1990 she is in Enterprise (AL), yet she emerges in 1985 with an M.A. from Alabama, which is all the way up in Tuscaloosa.  I'll bet she got it from a branch closer to Enterprise, like perhaps in Dothan or Montgomery.  Final example, from 1985-1990 she is in Enterprise AL yet emerges in 1989 with a PhD from Florida State.  I just don't get it.

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elliot has some excellent hypotheses here. It would be great if we could clear this up one way or another. VERY INTERESTING. Since she was never tenured at UK (as she admits), the faculty at USM are answering to a VP who never received tenure at a 4 year univeristy. Hmmmmm.

Geez.. where to start? Her resume should be on the Analytical portion of the GRE (Graduate Record Exam). "Using the resume above as a reference, if Susie earned a Masters from a university in Tallahassee, Florida in 1984, and a Masters from a university in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, in 1985, which of the following is actually a possibility?

a. She was teaching at a community college in Panama City 1983-1985

b. She was teaching at a junior college in Enterprise, Alabama 1985-1990

c. None of the above unless Susie cloned herself

UPDATE TO ANGIE DVORAK'S RESUME: (UPDATED INFORMATION IN ITALICS)

EDUCATION

A.A., Gulf Coast Community College, 1977

B.A., summa cum laude Major subject area --- English, Troy State University, 1979

M.S. English Education, Florida State University, 1984

M.A., Major Subject Area --- English, University of Alabama, 1985

PhD, Major Subject Area --- English, Florida State University, 1989

J.D., cum laude, Thomas M. Cooley Law School, 1994

L.L.M., magna cume laude, Florida Gulf Coast University, 2003

M.D., University of Mississippi, 2004

PROFESSIONAL SKILLS AND EXPERIENCES

1981-1983, Teacher, Panama City Christian School, Panama City Florida

1983-1985, Assistant Professor, Department of Language Arts, Gulf Coast Community College, Panama City, FL

1985-1990, Tenured Instructor, Department of English, Foreign Language and Communications, Enterprise State Junior College, Enterprise, AL

1985-1990, Director of the Center for Innovations and Instructional Technology and Title III Grant Project, Enterprise State Junior College, Enterprise, AL

1990-1994, Faculty Administrator, Center for Integrative Studies in the Arts and Humanities, College of Arts and Letters, Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

1990-1994, Project Administrator/Executive Producer, Office of the Vice Provost of Computing, Technology and Libraries, Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

1990-1994, Assistant Professor, Department of American Thought and Language, College of Arts and Letters, Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

1994-1997, Dean of Arts and Sciences, Jackson State Community College, Jackson, TN

1997-2000, Chief Executive Officer/President, Ashland Community College, Ashland, KY

1997-2000, Tenured Associate Professor of English, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY

2000-2002, Chief Executive Officer/President, Institute for Technology Development, Jackson, MS

2000-2002, Chief Executive Officer/President, Mississippi Technology Alliance, Jackson, MS

2002-present, Vice President for Research, The University of Southern Mississippi, Hattiesburg, MS

2003, Consultant, U.S. Government, Middle East Peace Process

2004, Chief of Surgery, Forest General Hospital, Hattiesburg, MS

PUBLICATIONS

Resume Writing for Fun and Profit

Truth and Honesty as a Second Language

Leadership in Academia:  How to Make Those Damn Professors Do What You Want

Practice Human Resource Management:  How to Get Employers to Hire You, Your Spouse, and Your Friends

i have to agree with educator--when I saw the "official" bio I was appalled.  Minimally, she is responsible for checking the accuracy of her bio before it is posted, even though someone else may have created the webpage. If mistakes are made by the bio creator, Dvorak has a responsibility to verify the accuracy.  (And I thought she had a law degree.)

a couple of other notes and thoughts.  FSU does have a branch campus in panama city, and I suspect she received her graduate degree from there.  But, panama city and tallahassee are only 85 miles apart (as the crow flies) and I know plenty of full time employees who come from Jackson, New Orleans, and Mobile to pursue graduate degrees in Hattiesburg. 

A question for someone more knowledgeable than me.  We have a parallel situation with the FSU-Panama City case.  It's USM--Gulf Park.  Technically, how will the degree read?  How should someone list it on their vitae?  If FSU grants the degree even though completed at panama city, how should it be listed?

Hey guys, the Chronicle article says that Dvorak is 44 years old right now.  That puts her as a 19-year old around 1978/79.  Notice that is the year she earned her B.A. from Troy State University, which is two years after getting her A.A. from GCCC (Panama City).  I suppose she could've graduated high school at 17, all the while doing A.A. coursework at night.  Thus, she effectively got her high school diploma and the A.A. at the same time.  Then she finished the B.A. from Troy over the next 2 years, and as a 19 year-old became a graduate teaching assistant somewhere.  But where? She got an MS from FSU in 1984 and an MA from 'Bama in 1985.  What is going on?

Was she a quiz-kid that graduated high school at 14 or 15?  Who knows what's going on.  She might have helped Al Gore create the Internet too I suppose.

Iddad:

I suppose it would be technically okay to simply list FSU even if you went to their PC branch, although as a potential employer I would like to know where you were.  It may be okay to leave it off for her, but as an employer I don't have to assume that the quality of grads across the 2 locations is equivalent.

If she received her her AA in 1977, BA in 1979, MS in 1984 from one university and yet another MA in 1985 (From Univ. of Alabama) where she must have, during 1984-1985 been 19 years old at some point, AND was a teacher from 1981 - 1983 AND went on to be an Assistant Prof in FLA (as pointed out earlier without a Masters degree), she is some kind of multitasker, isn't she??  If she's 44 now she'd have been born around 1960- and was 19 in 1984-85 -- what am I missing?  If she's vain about her age, she'd still have received her AA when she was around 12 years old and that would have her graduating from high school maybe simultaneously - who knows???  I just wonder what degrees were being granted from satellite campuses back in those days. To me, this gives Glamser and Stringer even more ammo.  I just hope the College Board takes note of this and that her interview with the Clarion Ledger tomorrow addresses the "fuzzy math"

Thank goodness for this Fire Shelby website -- at least we can keep this discussion going.

Greedy, you are so right, but we can not do what the Thames administration is counting on.  Maybe large prints of her USM website bio should be displayed at the student protest. Maybe they need to be displayed when the College Board meets on Thursday.  They are trying to vilify 2 fabulous professors when they can't even cover their own tracks.  Her bio was taken off the website for some glaring problems, and the more we look into it - - the more we can see that "something's rotten in the state of MS"

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Originally posted by: lddad
"for what it's worth, i can answer a question I asked because I talked to a resource person I know.  As best as I can tell about USM, and I could be wrong, if 50% of your coursework is at the Hattiesburg campus and 50% at the Gulf Park campus, then you get to choose which campus to have your degree from.  Probably doesn't help much in this discussion, but a point of information about how university systems decide where your degree is from."

I think Emma's onto something . . . what year did those campuses become degree granting campuses??

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"PROFESSIONAL SKILLS AND EXPERIENCES

1981-1983, Teacher, Panama City Christian School, Panama City Florida

1983-1985, Assistant Professor, Department of Language Arts, Gulf Coast Community College, Panama City, FL"

I agree that an 85 mile commute isn't unheard of. I just question how someone can have a full-time job as a professor in one town and somehow be a graduate student at the same time 85 miles away in another. I guess with some fancy scheduling it can be done. I personally think it is more likely that she was at the Panama City branch. Don't know that for a fact, though.

Also, in Alabama, Community College faculty are granted tenure after three years. Her resume states "1985-1990" as a tenured instructor. Is should read "Instructor from 1985-1988" and "Tenured Instructor 1988-1990".

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Originally posted by: lddad
"i hear that she's published in USM's Southern Quarterly.  Can someone confirm?"

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Dvorak - in her interview with the CL states -

"When you say something about somebody's credentials, nobody ever hears anything different. One person said it's semantics. One person said it didn't get on the form right. One person said the difference in the system wasn't clarified," said Dvorak, her eyes red, her fingers clenched tightly. "That's a mighty high price to pay over interpretation, particularly when ... they could have just asked me a question, and I'd have been glad to have told them."

Right, as if Frank and Gary could have just gone up and asked her and her reply would have been truthful. I think not.  Okay, let's go back to what is said about her on the (recently removed) website --- Why would ANYONE write that Dvorak "initiated" her teaching career at the age of 19 at the University of Alabama as a graduate assistant if she, in fact, didn't do that?  Did Angie not proof or even peruse what was going on with what it said about her on that website?  Where is this interpretation wrong?  It says what it says, and she never changed it to reflect the truth. Also, I find it interesting that she admits, in this CL article, that Shelby recruited her to take this VP position. Did he invite anyone else to apply?  Also, I've talked to some friends who have been profs in the English Dept. at Kentucky for well over 20 years and they can't believe that anyone would claim to even be associated with their Dept. when she didn't go through the academic process, and they had no input on her receiving tenure.  No one "ruined" her career - she did it all on her own.  She's crying because she got caught and there is no spin that she can rely on to get her out of her web of lies.

In the resume' provided in the first post of this thread, here is an entry on her vita:

"1997-2000, Tenured Associate Professor of English, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY"

She lists this in addition to being "CEO" of Ashland Community College.  This is the problem.  When she says that she is a tenured associate professor at the uni in Lexington, then how else can that be taken.

Also note that this entry was missing from the resume' she handed the CL reporter today.  This was central to the AAUP investigation of her resume'. 

I don't see how this could be construed as anything else but an attempt to mislead with the first version of her vita, above, and an attempt to cover her tracks with a second version of her vita, which she gave the CL reporter.

(Not to mention that the highest rank she ever achieved was associate professor, and she sits in academic judgment of others who have achieved MUCH more than she.)

I talked to a professor at Alabama who was there when she was 19 yrs. old and he doesn't remember her. Says he will look into it for me though.  But, Curious, your sources could be just as reliable. None of it makes much sense.  If she's 44 she would have been at Alabama 25 years ago - the years match up, but it is just a conflict with her work experience and bachelor's degree.  Getting the straight story on her resume would resolve these issues - so why doesn't she produce it and shut us all up?

Let me see if I have this straight...someone who doesn't understand why "Tenured Associate professor of English, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY" might be seen as misleading if not fraudulent when that person "doesn't even know where the English Dept. is at the U of K" is also making tenure and promotion decisions about other faculty?????

 

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Originally posted by: fire shelby
"In the resume' provided in the first post of this thread, here is an entry on her vita: "1997-2000, Tenured Associate Professor of English, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY" She lists this in addition to being "CEO" of Ashland Community College.  This is the problem.  When she says that she is a tenured associate professor at the uni in Lexington, then how else can that be taken. Also note that this entry was missing from the resume' she handed the CL reporter today.  This was central to the AAUP investigation of her resume'.  I don't see how this could be construed as anything else but an attempt to mislead with the first version of her vita, above, and an attempt to cover her tracks with a second version of her vita, which she gave the CL reporter. (Not to mention that the highest rank she ever achieved was associate professor, and she sits in academic judgment of others who have achieved MUCH more than she.)"

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