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Walt Cain and HUB SGA are Shelby Suck Ups
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Report from the Founders Day celebration from a CSUSM organizer who was there:


First, the organizer told me that the decision of CSUSM people to demonstrate was made pretty much immediately before the Founders Day celebration.  If you recall from another post, I spoke to him at 1:00 and they were just then making signs.  They had not advertised or publicized an organized protest, and they did not expect a great number of protesters to join them. (That will happen on April 6th!)


Here's what USM students need to know, though:


SGA people, including Loftus, scowled and mocked the demonstrators. 


Walt Cain, the new SGA president who spent something like $7000 to get elected (a lot to pay for a brown nose, eh?) told the crowd that he and SGA were on neither side--they were for education.


Then, and this will blow your mind, he said that SGA is proposing to publish an ALTERNATIVE newspaper to the Printz!  (Pravda SGA?)  Is that not the craziest thing you have heard?  Do any of you remember last year when Shelby and Lisa ordered Robbie Ward to give them editorial authority on anything that was published in the Printz?  Robbie wrote several articles (if anyone remembers roughly the dates, email me so I can post those on the site) about Shelby iron-fisting the newspaper and Lisa actually screaming at Robbie through the phone. 


Shelby wants his grape kool-aid cult to have its own paper now.  I am taken aback by this proposal!


But, I like to be an optimist, and if there is any good to come out of this, it's karma.  When these  SGA students apply for grad school, and they indicate on their resume' that they were SGA members at USM, it won't be a pay off for them, since academia is watching USM and knows that SGA is propping up Shelby.  I can just picture it now. 


Cain: "Yes, I was on SGA at USM--I was the president."


Department Chair at any reputable uni in the country:  "Really?  Why did you support such a destructive administration?"


Cain: "Uh, we were for education."


Department Chair: "I appreciate you applying to our department.  However, we support academic freedom and critical thinking here, and you seem to propone neither.  Nice talking to you.  Next..."


In other words, in the past Hub SGA might have scored you a few points on your resume'; at present, however, it will be a detriment.  HUB SGA is the scourge of academia right now because they refuse to represent their constituents--the ones who elected them, the ones who pay the fees so SGA can buy cake and punch.


So, Walt, enjoy your next year.  You have already identified yourself as a Shelby tool.  If you think sucking up to Shelby has long-term benefits, you are sadly mistaken.


Keep on drinkin' that kool-aid...



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wary undergrad

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You know, I tried to find those issues of the Student Printz in the archives and they seem to be missing . . .

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present professor

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Dear FS:


It happened a lot like this in the 60's Free Speech movement also -- the SGA's were always behind the curve . . .


Checkin' in answer to your email query RE banned IP addresses.


 



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Originally posted by: wary undergrad
"You know, I tried to find those issues of the Student Printz in the archives and they seem to be missing . . ."

That doesn't surprise me...check around and see if you can find an approximate date.


If I have to, I will email Robbie Ward (who is now a journalist with the Daily Journal in Tupelo) and have him email me a copy of his articles on that.



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Originally posted by: present professor
"Dear FS: It happened a lot like this in the 60's Free Speech movement also -- the SGA's were always behind the curve . . . Checkin' in answer to your email query RE banned IP addresses.  "

 


Thanks, Prof. 


I hope everyone will forgive my rant, but every time I think that Shelby and Co. have stooped their lowest, I see that I was wrong.


Really, though, I pity those students.  Wish they had the guts that Gulf Park SGA has demonstrated.



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elliott

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Fire Shelby:


Your "rant" was well articulated, right on the mark, and necessary.  Keep it up.


 



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If what I wrote above is not sufficiently infuriating, let me tell you the REST of the story!


Walt Cain stated during his speech today that he is proposing to rewrite the USM Student Constitution.


And they call the protesters radicals!!


Students, you need to get on the agenda for the next SGA meeting and protest this like hell.  Only you can protect the rights you now have.  If you think the atmosphere is restrictive for professors right now, wait to see what Walt Cain has in store for you.



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That issue of the Printz was May 1, 2003. Headline: "Disturbance in the Dome." The best Printz ever. Robbie Ward was terrific. I saved my issue. It is chock-full of goodness. (Thames "appalled" at what was being reported, thought journalism should incorporate an ethics class earlier in the curriculum; Ward's piece "Thames, Mader don't run Printz;" every letter to the editor; the editorial "First term confirms campus worries, fears." Folks, this was May 2003. Yes, we are in last straw territory.


So many of us were dumbfounded by what was being allowed to happen to our University without any apparent ripple in the community or the state. Robbie Ward & the Printz staff made a true difference.


I haven't done the research, but I feel like it wasn't until Thames questioned the journalism dept. and journalism in general that other print media became concerned at all with what was really happening with Thames & USM. And still, well, y'all read the papers.


I will donate this issue of the Printz to the Archives tomorrow.



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Originally posted by: sport
"That issue of the Printz was May 1, 2003. Headline: "Disturbance in the Dome." The best Printz ever. Robbie Ward was terrific. I saved my issue. It is chock-full of goodness. (Thames "appalled" at what was being reported, thought journalism should incorporate an ethics class earlier in the curriculum; Ward's piece "Thames, Mader don't run Printz;" every letter to the editor; the editorial "First term confirms campus worries, fears." Folks, this was May 2003. Yes, we are in last straw territory. So many of us were dumbfounded by what was being allowed to happen to our University without any apparent ripple in the community or the state. Robbie Ward & the Printz staff made a true difference. I haven't done the research, but I feel like it wasn't until Thames questioned the journalism dept. and journalism in general that other print media became concerned at all with what was really happening with Thames & USM. And still, well, y'all read the papers. I will donate this issue of the Printz to the Archives tomorrow."
Bless you for having that issue!  And thanks for considering donating it to the archives.

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