"There's breaking news to tell you this morning concerning the case of the two suspended USM professors. Their attorney, Michael Adelman, has announced the hearing for Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser will be open to the public and the press.
"The two men originally asked for a closed hearing. Glamser and Stringer were suspended by USM president Shelby Thames in early March. Thames is also seeking to have the two professors terminated. Under state law, the men are allowed to have a hearing before a special appointed board. That hearing is set for April 28th and 29th.
"Thames has claimed the men used university computers to do a background search on a USM vice-president. Glamser and Stringer say they have done nothing wrong."
quote: Originally posted by: Concerned "Wahoo! Open hearings. Now we really get to see the truth for USM! Alot of people went out on a limb for these two guys and they better hope they can back up what they have started. BUT my guess is they cannot. We shall see as the evidence is produced."
The burden of proof is on Shelby...I don't know what you are talking about.
quote: Originally posted by: Concerned "Wahoo! Open hearings. Now we really get to see the truth for USM! Alot of people went out on a limb for these two guys and they better hope they can back up what they have started. BUT my guess is they cannot. We shall see as the evidence is produced."
A lot of people went out on the limb for these guys because they have a better track record for honesty than President Thames and the Kentucky cabal . . . and a lot of us know them personally.
Finally, it simply isn't conceivable that anything these professors might have done could be so egregious that they should have been removed from their classes, their offices locked down. their computers seized and finally that they should be publically assasinated by their own bosses.Those actions speak way louder than anything else about this administration and its relationship to the faculty it thinks it owns.
Get your head out of the trees and look at the forest.
A week ago, neither the professors nor their attorney had been presented the 51-pages of specific charges against them.
I understand that Shelby and Co. had to submit the charges and a list of evidence and witnesses to the profs and their attorney before a specified date.
Under no circumstances would I agree to an open hearing had I been them. It isn't about what they might have DONE wrong--it IS about what Shelby might have ACCUSED them of doing.
Perhaps the profs/Adelman received the charges within the past couple of days, and, after seeing that they would easily win, decided to open the hearings. If this is the case, Shelby's open-hearing spin will have backfired on him.
Remember, two weeks ago, he was in the public pushing to set open hearings for THIS week. At that point, he had not supplied the specific charges, evidence, witnesses to Adelman.
After the appointment of Anderson on Thursday, I am sure Shelby was told to submit the lists of charges, evidence, witnesses to Adelman. Finally, after more than a month, the profs saw the specific charges and decided to make the hearings open.
I do know that people who saw the termination letter the profs received said it was ludicrous. Perhaps the specific charges are just as ridiculous. We shall see.....
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RE: Glamser and Stringer will agree to open hearin
My guess is similar to Fire Shelby's: having reviewed the charges and the purported evidence against them, Glamser and Stringer and their lawyer concluded that opening the hearings to the public will make it obvious to everyone how preposterous Thames' alleged grounds for firing them were.
Anyone who worries that Glamser and Stringer must have done some awful thing needs to keep two considerations in mind:
(1) Angie Dvorak's vita isn't confidential information. A vita a tool of self-promotion; keeping it secret would defeat its purpose. The information necessary to show she was lying on her vita isn't confidential either.
(2) It is pretty clear that you can lie on your vita and keep your job at USM (as is unfortunately true at some other state universities). So... what could Glamser and Stringer have done that was *worse* than lying on a vita?
We'll all know in three weeks. In the meantime, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the terrible revelations....
An open hearing means that Thames' charges against the professors will be publicized, regardless of their validity. This is what the administration wants.
An open hearing also means that the professors' arguments vis-a-vis due process will be publicized, regardless of their validity. My guess is that Mr Adelman feels that these arguments far outweigh the validity of the charges against his clients. I hope he's not gambling, although in poker terms, he's basically calling Shelby's bluff.
An open hearing means also that any statements made either way will probably be uncritically parrotted in the press. In other words, it is not likely to settle the matter for most folks. Shelby's supporters will take what they want away from the hearing, regardless of the outcome, and the profs' supporters will do the same.
Remember, too, that newspaper & TV reporters are, as a group, not deep thinkers. A lot of how the hearing plays in the press will revolve around which side plays to the "one sentence per paragraph" mentality of the press. I'll opine that mentality is much closer to Lisa Mader's than to the professors'. Shelby has a staff that can spend as much time (and taxpayer money) as possible spinning things. The profs do not.
Personally, I think the open hearing is a bad idea for the university in general. A lot of dirty laundry may get put on the line, so to speak.
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I just learned from my source that the hearings will be held in the Union upstairs rooms. Wonder if Unique Catering will provide those little cheese biscuits and peach punch? Forget "Southern Miss to the Top"....this is going to be "USM under the Big Top." A real media circus.
quote: Originally posted by: truth4usm "I just learned from my source that the hearings will be held in the Union upstairs rooms. Wonder if Unique Catering will provide those little cheese biscuits and peach punch? Forget "Southern Miss to the Top"....this is going to be "USM under the Big Top." A real media circus."
LOL! I assumed they would hold it under the "big top"--Reed Green.
By the time the media sets up in the Union rooms, there will be little room for observers.
quote: Originally posted by: truth4usm "I just learned from my source that the hearings will be held in the Union upstairs rooms. Wonder if Unique Catering will provide those little cheese biscuits and peach punch? Forget "Southern Miss to the Top"....this is going to be "USM under the Big Top." A real media circus."
This is the last part of the article on hattiesburgamerican's website.. Does the last line mean that this hearing may end up serving no purpose
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Glamser is president of the USM chapter of American Association of University Professors, which started the probe, and asked Stringer to be in charge. The two professors have said they are accused of misusing university computers and telephones during the investigation of Dvorak.
Adelman will ask Anderson to allow broadcast and print cameras in the hearing under the guidelines adopted last year by the state Supreme Court.
"I think there have to be some restrictions, but that's strictly up to Justice Anderson," he said. "We're concerned that we have an orderly hearing."
Anderson was out of his office on Wednesday and not expected back until Monday, an assistant said.
The hearing will be transcribed and videotaped and the record turned over to the University Advisory Committee and Thames. The committee and Thames will each make a recommendation to Anderson who will forward them, along with his own recommendation and the record, to the College Board.
The board will make a decision based on the recommendations or hold its own hearing.
Originally posted by: flyonthewall "This is the last part of the article on hattiesburgamerican's website.. Does the last line mean that this hearing may end up serving no purpose (snip)
The board will make a decision based on the recommendations or hold its own hearing. ********************************** COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE LAST LINE.. "
More bad grammar on Janet Braswell's part. My understanding is that the board will make a decision based on the recommendations they receive from Reuben Anderson, UAC, and Thames OR they can hold their own hearing if they feel they need more evidence before making a decision. It's all up to the College Board, ultimately. That's why it's important to WRITE THOSE LETTERS, folks!