The boxes likely contained potato chips, candy, etc. - Shelby is not a small man, and his ego requires lots of calories to function.

They could bring in 100 boxes - won't matter - Adelman and his boys are about to administer a legal beatdown on Team Shelby...

L&G

Hmmmm....delay in starting...last minute negotiations?

 

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Of course, it's now AFTER 9:30 - but I imagine they haven't actually started on time in the hearing room."

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Hmmmm....delay in starting...last minute negotiations?

 

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Of course, it's now AFTER 9:30 - but I imagine they haven't actually started on time in the hearing room."

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Taking every ounce of discretion that I possess but I am not going to respond...let your breath out now!

Sorry for post those who don't understand but, trust me, I am preventing a heart attack!

HA says only 15 in game room watching.  Where is everyone with their brooms?  I'd be there if I wasn't 1,000 miles away.

finally got in...

so the mudslinging begins...watch out!

In admin's opening statement, I didn't hear anything that wasn't discussed on this board...

primarily allegedly using Dvorak's SSN without her knowledge, which has already been denied in Duff's opening statement

"Everything they will present is a bogus charade", says Glamser/Stringer lawyer.

sorry...Duff or McDuff, i forget...aclu lawyer on Prof's team..making open statement.

 

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Originally posted by: Lewis and Gilbert
"Sorry for my ignorance - who is Duff?"

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Keith made opening statement

 

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Originally posted by: truth4usm
"Still can't get through...who is speaking for Thames?  Jim Keith?  Jack Hanbury?  It's 10:01 CST in middle TN where I am."

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Thames is first witness!

 

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Originally posted by: Out Obsrv
"Prof's lawyer "Pres is opening student's email and faculty email in a pathetic attempt to prop up these charges!""

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Dr. Thames called as witness!"

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Moments ago:

Dvorak situation – it’s like playing for a New York Yankees farm team and saying you play for the New York Yankees organization.

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Moments ago: Dvorak situation – it’s like playing for a New York Yankees farm team and saying you play for the New York Yankees organization."

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Read letter from Glamser that evening. Immediately called Dvorak.

Dvorak duties – “manage research and economic aspects of university”

The holidays were upcoming, told Dvorak “no hurry”, we’d talk at beginning of the year.

It was close to Christmas time, going into bow season (hunting?)

Letter said AAUP would prefer to not become involved in matter.

Next Thames heard was that on January 16th a newscast would cover the problem with Dvorak resume.

Told Hanbury to look into the resume issues, get facts for Thames, cause Thames couldn’t understand why this was happening.

Days later Hanbury got back with him, and found that there had been an email from Stringer to a person in Kentucky , seeking confidential information, from her employment file. That was disturbing to Thames, says he was using her social security number to get private info from personnel file.

Read letter from Glamser that evening. Immediately called Dvorak.

Dvorak duties – “manage research and economic aspects of university”

The holidays were upcoming, told Dvorak “no hurry”, we’d talk at beginning of the year.

It was close to Christmas time, going into bow season (hunting?)

Letter said AAUP would prefer to not become involved in matter.

Next Thames heard was that on January 16th a newscast would cover the problem with Dvorak resume.

Told Hanbury to look into the resume issues, get facts for Thames, cause Thames couldn’t understand why this was happening.

Days later Hanbury got back with him, and found that there had been an email from Stringer to a person in Kentucky , seeking confidential information, from her employment file. That was disturbing to Thames, says he was using her social security number to get private info from personnel file.

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Read letter from Glamser that evening. Immediately called Dvorak. Dvorak duties – “manage research and economic aspects of university” The holidays were upcoming, told Dvorak “no hurry”, we’d talk at beginning of the year. It was close to Christmas time, going into bow season (hunting?) Letter said AAUP would prefer to not become involved in matter. Next Thames heard was that on January 16th a newscast would cover the problem with Dvorak resume. Told Hanbury to look into the resume issues, get facts for Thames, cause Thames couldn’t understand why this was happening. Days later Hanbury got back with him, and found that there had been an email from Stringer to a person in Kentucky , seeking confidential information, from her employment file. That was disturbing to Thames, says he was using her social security number to get private info from personnel file."

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I wonder if the email actually said that, or if Thames' is putting his spin on it.

 

 

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Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"Emails monitored at this point, very disturbing to Thames the information going to and fro. Found email from July 2003 on the Dvorak matter. Generally, the investigation was “can you tell me anything about Dvorak.” Said nature of correspondence was contempt, “we want her out of this position”. Wanted to remove her from her position."

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Beats me, but if not specifically in their email, hope the Prof's lawyers bring that out in cross exam!

 

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Originally posted by: WHATAMESSATUSM
"good question - if the e-mail didn't state that, wouldn't that be slander?"

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Evidence – letter to Dr. Stringer, being talked about.

Go over specific reasons for this action.

1. Making statements that were untrue, mishonest


2. Engaging in malicious conduct


3. misuse of state property


4. disclosing SS# of Dvorak, student and other fac member


5. insubordinate conduct


6. unprofessional conduct, undermining confidence in administration

Yep

 

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Originally posted by: Websitebrowser
"Wasn't it Robert McDuff from Jackson, the expert in freedom of speech issues?"

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From Thames - one of the reasons for termination was attempting to disrupt confidence in the administration . . .

this is ironic - there is no confidence in the adminstration to disrupt.

Email from Stringer, summer 2003, to someone in Kentucky (didn’t get name)

Halfway down it there is a reference to Thames firing Deans at USM

What disturbed you about this email, Dr. Thames?

Well, the deans were not fired.

Secondly, Stringer is showing “meaness” here. Has personal issue here and grudge, showing in the email.

Email May 2, 2003 – from Stringer to reporter for Clarion Ledger –

Points out their conversation previous evening – Stringer has reference to unilateral imposition of new rules for tenure achievement (economic development necessary now)

“it means the end of attempts to acquire quality faculty”

Thames also disturbed by part of email where he talks about Don Cabana’s resignation from Fac Senate, whom Thames had good relationship with. Cabana came under attack for friendliness with admin. “Cabana sold the faculty out for an administrative position. Effectively killing the senate for this year and the foreseeable future.”

Email from Stringer, summer 2003, to someone in Kentucky (didn’t get name)

Halfway down it there is a reference to Thames firing Deans at USM

What disturbed you about this email, Dr. Thames?

Well, the deans were not fired.

Secondly, Stringer is showing “meaness” here. Has personal issue here and grudge, showing in the email.

Email May 2, 2003 – from Stringer to reporter for Clarion Ledger –

Points out their conversation previous evening – Stringer has reference to unilateral imposition of new rules for tenure achievement (economic development necessary now)

“it means the end of attempts to acquire quality faculty”

Thames also disturbed by part of email where he talks about Don Cabana’s resignation from Fac Senate, whom Thames had good relationship with. Cabana came under attack for friendliness with admin. “Cabana sold the faculty out for an administrative position. Effectively killing the senate for this year and the foreseeable future.”

Lawyer keeps asking Thames "What bothers you about this particular email?"

Hope other side asks Glamser and Stringer "What bothers you about the President reading your personal email?"

Email from Stringer – Stringer says the “f--- IHL board has given us a barbarian administration” “I may have to retire to regain the peace of mind to do my work”

Dec 4, 03

To get HA updates:

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/usmtrial.html

Thames: Dr. Stringer has one of the best jobs in America. Doesn’t have to teach classes, comes and goes as he pleases. Univ has to hire someone to teach his classes. How can he say he cannot get his work done??? All the university has done is help him.

Thames – facts mean nothing to Stringer, he’s blinded by hate for this admin. Doesn’t matter what you do for him, you cannot make him happy.

Email from Stringer – “I am wondering if there is anyone there who remembers Dvorak (at Michigan State) and would tell anything about her. She is a real case. She’s abandoned her original direction. ... She has been very mean to some nice people here (at USM). This inquiry requires discretion, as I don’t want her to know I’m investigating her background. It irks me that she is making these tenure or promotion decisions.

July 15, 2003 – the beginning of the witch hunt, he says.

Was it important that Dvorak comes in as tenured?

Thames – not important to me at all.

We never discussed her tenure at USM, never became an issue.