http://www.usm.edu/fsenate/minutes/2002-09-13.html

  D. Beckett: A number of people have suggested that research at USM will be on the Polymer Science model: dollars for a product.  Others do knowledge for knowledge's sake.  How would such research rank?  In terms of tenure and promotion?

    S. Thames: Is Gary Stringer here?  If he were I would turn this question over to him.  Years ago, I helped him to fund his research, because I thought it was important. He generated more than $1M to keep that work going.  I understand what you're saying.  I understand that there are differences in responsibilities in the arts, social sciences, business, and in the sciences.  Tell me and convince me why what you're doing should be represented as research. 

How can Thames refer to Stringer as the expert in this Faculty Senate meeting, which is in September 2003, if he thinks he's so dishonest as of July 2002? This stuff doesn't add up and his testimony (from what I've seen in the updates) is absurd.