our job now

Date: May 1, 2004

our job now

Date: May 1, 2004

Good job. It is inspiring to see the level of personal energy that people continute to devote to solving the problems at USM when they could make their own lives and careers much easier by simply moving on to another. Thank you.

Date: May 1, 2004

To Ann Wallace, very well stated, as always.

To all, although we have lost two powerful voices (Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer), there are still many others left to take up where they left off. I have been making some calls and to continue the fight, I am hopeful that I can get copies of evidence quite soon.

AAUP-USM has been so effective. We accomplished a major win with the Board concerning how students at all universities in this state will be counted. AAUP-USM will continue to fight.

I am also confident that our representatives on Faculty Senate will continue the fight at the very next meeting on Friday.

No quarter.

Date: May 1, 2004

Anne, I'm with you.

NO QUARTER!

Jim Hollandsworth

Date: May 1, 2004

It is so good to see the fighting spirit continue - I really think we are gaining ground. Eventually the board will HAVE to see that the destruction has gone too far if we don't give up.
Let Freedom Ring

P.S. What does "no quarter" mean?

Date: May 1, 2004

Thank you, Anne Wallace and Amy Young, for all you have done (and done publicly), and all you continue to do. I can't imagine what life is like at USM these days, and it saddens me so when I think about it. I pledge to continue to do whatever I can to help all of you. Again, know that the larger academic community is watching (and, I hope, taking note)...

No quarter.

Andrea Hewitt

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Let Freedom Ring
"It is so good to see the fighting spirit continue - I really think we are gaining ground. Eventually the board will HAVE to see that the destruction has gone too far if we don't give up.Let Freedom Ring P.S. What does "no quarter" mean?"

Basically, "no quarter" in this context would mean that you would not accommodate the enemy in any way.

http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-giv1.htm is one source for information on that

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Let Freedom Ring
"It is so good to see the fighting spirit continue - I really think we are gaining ground. Eventually the board will HAVE to see that the destruction has gone too far if we don't give up.Let Freedom Ring P.S. What does "no quarter" mean?"

It means "no surrender", "don't give", "stand firm" ....

Date: May 1, 2004

Anne Wallace,

Great post! I don't see any alternatives to what you are proposing, except getting out of USM as soon as possible, or becoming resigned to living in a hellhole.

Your evaluation of Angie Dvorak's meager publication record is not only courageous--it came out in the newspaper at just the right time.

I think that that various faculty bodies at USM can keep up the pressure on the Thames administration: the Faculty Senate, the faculy of each college, even the faculty of each department.

By doing so they can, in turn, keep the USM crisis in the newspapers, which, in turn, will help to keep the heat on the Board and the politicians.

I won't make any detailed suggestions about strategy here, for obvious reasons, but I can be reached through Liberty and Power if anyone is interested.

NQ,

Robert Campbell

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Anne Wallace, Great post! I don't see any alternatives to what you are proposing, except getting out of USM as soon as possible, or becoming resigned to living in a hellhole. Your evaluation of Angie Dvorak's meager publication record is not only courageous--it came out in the newspaper at just the right time. I think that that various faculty bodies at USM can keep up the pressure on the Thames administration: the Faculty Senate, the faculy of each college, even the faculty of each department. By doing so they can, in turn, keep the USM crisis in the newspapers, which, in turn, will help to keep the heat on the Board and the politicians. I won't make any detailed suggestions about strategy here, for obvious reasons, but I can be reached through Liberty and Power if anyone is interested. NQ, Robert Campbell"

Ann and Amy, thanks for all you are doing. I am not a member AAUP. Frank has encouraged me to join for the last six months. I thought contributing to the legal defense fund was a bit more important. I now believe when we get the AAUP membership to 300 plus, this will be noticed by the College Board. I will bring my check this week.

Thank you

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: BogusBoy
" Basically, "no quarter" in this context would mean that you would not accommodate the enemy in any way. http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-giv1.htm is one source for information on that"

Thanks BogusBoy ~ that was interesting reading. I too say NO QUARTER!

Let Freedom Ring

Date: May 1, 2004

Anne's reminder that our focus has to be on the future is absolutely right. The frustration, despair, and even anger being expressed by many with regard to the announced settlement has, I think, to do with the uncertainty OF that future. Many of us hoped to see a clearer message coming from the settlement--one, we must continue to remember, that fully exonerates our colleagues and (despite what Thames might claim) reinstates them--about what USM's future will be. More particularly, we hoped to see some indication that, soon, we would be out from under the thumbs of petty and corrupt dictators. Instead, with the gag order clause, we are reminded of the costs of speaking truth to power and are left fearing for our own livelihoods, our own academic careers, the safety of our students, and the future of our university.

I have been proud to call Gary Stringer, Frank Glamser, Noel Polk, Anne Wallace, Amy Young, Doug Chambers, Stephen Judd, Susan Malone, Myron Henry, Bill Scarborough, and other outspoken, courageous individuals my colleagues. I intend to join them on the front lines. I believe that we need to come out from under cover, as much as we can, to let the USM administration and the IHL board know what we think. There is ONE way for the administration to claim a win in this settlement, and that is for us to respond to their tactics of fear and intimidation with silence.

No quarter.

Date: May 1, 2004

I just want to second what everyone has said. Dr Glamser and Stringer did a fantastic job carrying this banner during these terrible weeks. Now it is our job, everyone who cares about this university, to see it through.

No Quarter!

Adam Sencenbaugh

Date: May 1, 2004

No Quarter

Date: May 1, 2004

I graduated from USM in 2002 and am proud to say that I was taught by the best and the brightest. My degree is in English.

No Quarter

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: melissa whiting
"No Quarter"

I am anxious to hear how your case against the Thames' regime turns out. Please keep us posted.

No Quarter.

Date: May 1, 2004

problems continue, he continues to reward his cronies by demeaning the graduation of the student he has been ignoring, insulting supporter selected to lecture at the coast graduation, bigotted chauvinist from his department chosen as grand marshall. What next? reading of the names of the non existent students?

Date: May 1, 2004

I can't, legally, say anything right now except to thank all of you for being my colleagues and the professors of my daughter that you have been. My lawsuit is, at this point, unsettled. Knowing what the Message Board calls Thames & Co. is a reality in my life right now. I regularly read the comments, and as I read, I know that I worked with colleauges throughout the campus as well as fabulous students - this Board proves it.

My special thanks to the professors who taught Molly Dearth, my daughter. She was a National Merit Finalist who had offers to go everywhere. She decided to live on campus and get her degree at USM because of the esteemed Honors College and the professors that she had the golden oppotunity to interact with.

She is a better person, and we'll never regret her decision to turn down Carnegie I institutions as a result.

When I soon come to Hattiesburg and have to endure what's about to happen to this system in Federal Court - I plead for all of you to be in the front row seats.

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
When I soon come to Hattiesburg and have to endure what's about to happen to this system in Federal Court - I plead for all of you to be in the front row seats."

Dr. Whiting, just let us know when and where to be. While the current battle may be "settled" so to speak, the war is far from over. I promised not to stop until the gnome goes home and I intend to keep that as long as I am at this unviersity.

No quarter!

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: cindy
" I promised not to stop until the gnome goes home and I intend to keep that as long as I am at this unviersity. No quarter!"

Let's be sure the gnome understands that the university is NOT his home.

Bye-Bye, Thames.

Fire Shelby · Status: Offline

I join this list of names.

No Quarter!

Fire Shelby

Date: May 1, 2004

No Quarter

The best thing all of you can do is sign the petition. Let your voices sing out in unison, we will not be defeated! We will not be opressed.

I do understand the fear tatics that Shelby Thames is using to control. And I do understand why many won't sign the petition, for fear of losing their jobs. But, 600 names isn't many people, 6000 names might get the attention of the board.(I haven't looked today but as of last night) I challenge the members of this board to sign that petition, to stick their necks out like Frank and Gary did. Prepared to take what ever may come of being strong to your personal convictions. We come here and rant and rave, and question why this happened and what has to be done to stop it. And yet when it comes to signing that petition its, oh gosh I can't, I'm afraid. Look back into history, the brave ones who were afraid took the most action. We have a democratic country because of those individuals, the ones who feared for their lives. They are the ones who stepped forward and lead the charge against tryanny and opression. Why let Frank and Gary be the only brave ones on USM campus? Where are the 430 faculty members who signed and voted no confidence? Where are the students whose future careers lie in the balance? Where are your names on that petition?

If you are going to be here saying how can we, ask yourself if you have signed that petition, then you KNOW how you can. And yes, my name is on that petition.

Date: May 1, 2004

no quarter.

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Patti
"No Quarter

The best thing all of you can do is sign the petition. Let your voices sing out in unison, we will not be defeated! We will not be opressed.

I do understand the fear tatics that Shelby Thames is using to control. And I do understand why many won't sign the petition, for fear of losing their jobs. But, 600 names isn't many people, 6000 names might get the attention of the board.(I haven't looked today but as of last night) I challenge the members of this board to sign that petition, to stick their necks out like Frank and Gary did. Prepared to take what ever may come of being strong to your personal convictions. We come here and rant and rave, and question why this happened and what has to be done to stop it. And yet when it comes to signing that petition its, oh gosh I can't, I'm afraid. Look back into history, the brave ones who were afraid took the most action. We have a democratic country because of those individuals, the ones who feared for their lives. They are the ones who stepped forward and lead the charge against tryanny and opression. Why let Frank and Gary be the only brave ones on USM campus? Where are the 430 faculty members who signed and voted no confidence? Where are the students whose future careers lie in the balance? Where are your names on that petition?

If you are going to be here saying how can we, ask yourself if you have signed that petition, then you KNOW how you can. And yes, my name is on that petition."

Well said!! For all of you who have complained G&S should have put more on the line I ask you to put your money where your mouth is and sign that petition!

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Tiger
" Well said!! For all of you who have complained G&S should have put more on the line I ask you to put your money where your mouth is and sign that petition!"

Wow! I go away for a day and I find an army getting itself ready for battle. I'm not much on military metaphors (or similies or whatever -- ann I need help here!) but they seem very apt right now.

Ann, I guess I should expect that you Lit folk (Noel, Neil and you) would provide rhetoric for our call to arms but you keep exceeding anything I can imagine. Every day there is a new piece of brilliant, brave writing and excellent analysis.

If you take 430 professors and figure that the average years of teaching is roughly a decade, that means that the no confidence vote represented 4,300 years of experience. If we were to survey the range of disciplines the vote represented, we'd find further evidence that the no confidence vote was deep, decisive, and extremely rational.

Date: May 2, 2004

Anne Wallace is worth reading twice.
Bump.

Date: May 2, 2004

Recently, there has been much debate over who came out ahead in the settlement between Professors Glamser and Stringer and Shelby Thames. It is not my intent in this posting to discuss the relative merits of those arguments. Instead, I would like to make two observations in regard to any advantage Thames may have won.

Despite being able to silence, at least for the time being, two of his most vocal critics, Thames has paid a terrible price. The reservoir of good-will, trust, and respect that comes naturally with the presidency of a state university has been seriously depleted. Furthermore, his cabinet is in shambles, his supporters are in disarray, and his detractors have been both reinvigorated and emboldened. This state of affairs was brought about by the intemperate and ill-conceived assault on two senior professors over an issue that was already dead. Ironically, at a time when his detractors were casting about for an issue, Thames stepped forward and handed them something they could really sink their teeth into. He is still howling.

Thames has also seriously misjudged the reasons for his discontent. Brad Bond told me after the lynching on January 17, 2003, that my removal as dean of the graduate school was not personal. He was dead wrong. With this administration, everything is personal. All of their decisions are driven by a drive for personal gain, whether it be fueled by power, pride, profit, or petulance. As a result, Thames personalizes difficulties and obstacles, preferring to see them as problems with people rather than problems with policies, governance, communication, leadership, or other issues related to the intricacies of administering a large and complex institution. Given this perspective, he tends to go after individuals rather than trying to resolve the more basic reasons for their complaints. As a consequence, heads roll but nothing is fixed, and the real problems that remain continue to disable him, as he will soon discover.

The faculty is like a very big tag team, and it has tremendous depth and staying power. When one goes down, another will step forward. The settlement may have temporarily disrupted part of the faculty’s leadership, but new leaders have already climbed in to the ring, joining other faculty leaders who are still in place. As they do, Thames will realize that his ability to counter their onslaught has been seriously compromised. His administration is in much worse shape today than it was two months ago.

If you will forgive a military metaphor, I will end this posting with reference to the Battle of the Bulge. I am sure that there was considerable back-slapping at Hitler’s headquarters as news of initial successes in pushing back the Allies came through. But what did it accomplish? The same miscreants who were congratulating themselves in December 1944 were hunkered down in a bunker four months later, and we all know how that story ended.

NO QUARTER!

Jim Hollandsworth

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Jim Hollandsworth
"Recently, there has been much debate over who came out ahead in the settlement between Professors Glamser and Stringer and Shelby Thames. It is not my intent in this posting to discuss the relative merits of those arguments. Instead, I would like to make two observations in regard to any advantage Thames may have won. Despite being able to silence, at least for the time being, two of his most vocal critics, Thames has paid a terrible price. The reservoir of good-will, trust, and respect that comes naturally with the presidency of a state university has been seriously depleted. Furthermore, his cabinet is in shambles, his supporters are in disarray, and his detractors have been both reinvigorated and emboldened. This state of affairs was brought about by the intemperate and ill-conceived assault on two senior professors over an issue that was already dead. Ironically, at a time when his detractors were casting about for an issue, Thames stepped forward and handed them something they could really sink their teeth into. He is still howling. Thames has also seriously misjudged the reasons for his discontent. Brad Bond told me after the lynching on January 17, 2003, that my removal as dean of the graduate school was not personal. He was dead wrong. With this administration, everything is personal. All of their decisions are driven by a drive for personal gain, whether it be fueled by power, pride, profit, or petulance. As a result, Thames personalizes difficulties and obstacles, preferring to see them as problems with people rather than problems with policies, governance, communication, leadership, or other issues related to the intricacies of administering a large and complex institution. Given this perspective, he tends to go after individuals rather than trying to resolve the more basic reasons for their complaints. As a consequence, heads roll but nothing is fixed, and the real problems that remain continue to disable him, as he will soon discover. The faculty is like a very big tag team, and it has tremendous depth and staying power. When one goes down, another will step forward. The settlement may have temporarily disrupted part of the faculty’s leadership, but new leaders have already climbed in to the ring, joining other faculty leaders who are still in place. As they do, Thames will realize that his ability to counter their onslaught has been seriously compromised. His administration is in much worse shape today than it was two months ago. If you will forgive a military metaphor, I will end this posting with reference to the Battle of the Bulge. I am sure that there was considerable back-slapping at Hitler’s headquarters as news of initial successes in pushing back the Allies came through. But what did it accomplish? The same miscreants who were congratulating themselves in December 1944 were hunkered down in a bunker four months later, and we all know how that story ended. NO QUARTER! Jim Hollandsworth "

Bravo, Jim Hollandsworth! Your writings continue to inspire me and your analysis is dead-on. This is why Shelby will never "win." Sign me up for the long haul (albeit from far away). I'd like to start discussion on how to get alumni involved. Believe me, there are more alumni that are concerned about Thames' performance as president than Eagle Talk would allow you to believe.

Again, thank you, Jim!

NO QUARTER!

Andrea Hewitt

Date: May 2, 2004

I agree with Professor Hollingsworth. I don't see how Thames could survive this. Now is not the time to sit back and lick wounds. Thames is the one who is wounded and weakened. What everyone needs to do is continue to keep the pressure on, to keep alert and vigilant, and to document, document, document. Memorize the policies, the faculty handbook, the student handbook. Write everything down. Act ethically and thoughtfully at all times. You are in the right. It's not about whether you "like" Thames or not. It is about whether he is abusing his power and authority, whether he is acting in a way that the citizens of Mississippi can accept.

Date: May 2, 2004

My apologies for misspelling Prof. Hollandsworth's name. I am not a member of the USM community, as should be obvious!

I'm just here cheering you all on and wishing the best for you.

Date: May 2, 2004

Jim Hollandsworth's analysis is excellent.

A point he makes that I have not seen brought out before:

Yes, Angelina Dvorak's vita was a dead issue when Thames fired G and S. Not because it should have been, but because university administrations have so many means at their disposal to bury these kinds of malfeasance, or cover them up.

What Thames did on March 5 put Dvorak and her vita in the press, and in front of the public. And whatever Dvorak is able to pull off in the future, the stories about her misleading statements will follow her around for the rest of her career--as indeed they should.

It would have been much easier for me and a bunch of my colleageus, dealing with the Clemson professor who lied on his vita, had the press ever picked the issue up. It never did, even when his lawsuit went to trial! The first concern of administrators is to keep all evidence of malfeasance out of the press, and they are successful at that most of the time.

Thames' mindset not only ensured press coverage of Dvorak's malfeasance, it ensures future press coverage of every other bit of malfeasance that some faculty member at USM dares to make a public statement about.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 2, 2004

Robert Campbell,

I want to meet you someday. Your insights into this situation are brilliant. My Liberal Arts friends across the nation are equally impressed.

NQ

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Melissa Whiting
"Robert Campbell, I want to meet you someday. Your insights into this situation are brilliant. My Liberal Arts friends across the nation are equally impressed. NQ"

Jim: thanks so much for your penetrating analysis. Like many faculty, I was appalled at the way you were treated all down the line. It is a sign of small mindedness that othe current USM version of a "licensed" scholar is someone who must a degree in the area of scholarly that they also teach in: as though the publication of works in history didn't make one a historian. I think Xenophon or Gibbon would be very interested to know that they couldn't teach history at USM. It is hard to imagine Harvard thinking this way. Another reason why this regime must go: it has no intellectual content. Lacking a content, it can only depend upon the "forms" to evaluate a scholar's authenticity . . . We are fortunate to have you on the Board and sharing your thoughts . . .

And Robert -- what can I say: every day offers new insights from you.

No Quarter.

Date: May 2, 2004

Is this the scholar, Jim Hollingsworth, who wrote books on history and taught history for years but was forced out of teaching history at USM because his doctorate was in another discipline? Forced out by the same administration, and in approximately the same time frame, that hired Ken Malone, with a PhD in polymer science, no business degrees, no faculty experience, no academic administration experience, to be Department Chair of Economic Development in the College of Business and Economic Development? Sure sounds fishy!

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Cleansweep
"Is this the scholar, Jim Hollingsworth, who wrote books on history and taught history for years but was forced out of teaching history at USM because his doctorate was in another discipline? Forced out by the same administration, and in approximately the same time frame, that hired Ken Malone, with a PhD in polymer science, no business degrees, no faculty experience, no academic administration experience, to be Department Chair of Economic Development in the College of Business and Economic Development? Sure sounds fishy!"

Sorry - Hollandsworth, not Hollingsworth, but I do have the story right, I think!

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Cleansweep
"Sorry - Hollandsworth, not Hollingsworth, but I do have the story right, I think!"

Yep -- you got the guy. And boy I just looked at my post and hope that some of you will forgive my missing edits. The following sentence should read:

It is a sign of small mindedness that the current USM version of a "licensed" scholar is someone who must have a degree in the area of scholarly that they also teach in: as though the publication of works in history didn't make one a historian.

Date: May 2, 2004

Brilliant observation

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: present professor
" Yep -- you got the guy. And boy I just looked at my post and hope that some of you will forgive my missing edits. The following sentence should read: It is a sign of small mindedness that the current USM version of a "licensed" scholar is someone who must have a degree in the area of scholarly that they also teach in: as though the publication of works in history didn't make one a historian."

Yes! Except even the small mindedness is not consistent. Angie Dvorak, Ken Malone, and now Richard Hadden...why is it that Economic Development does not need to play by the rules?

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4sum (Andrea Hewitt)
" Bravo, Jim Hollandsworth! Your writings continue to inspire me and your analysis is dead-on. This is why Shelby will never "win." Sign me up for the long haul (albeit from far away). I'd like to start discussion on how to get alumni involved. Believe me, there are more alumni that are concerned about Thames' performance as president than Eagle Talk would allow you to believe. Again, thank you, Jim! NO QUARTER! Andrea Hewitt"

First let me say that I have been following this site from day one and am very grateful for all the work and responses involved. As a recent alumni, I would also like to find a way to show our collective support for G&S. I can say from personal experience that Dr. Glamser was an inspiring professor who made a difference in countless student's lives. And I am proud to see through recent events, that things have not changed. A number of us (alumni) may no longer be residing in Hattiesburg, but that doesn't change our love for USM. AND, it is important for us to continue to show our support. If anyone can think of something specific that we could come together and do, please post it and let us know. Thanks and keep up the good work and support!

No Quarter,

LA Alumni

Date: May 2, 2004

I know I am ignorant when it comes to many of the topics you discuss on this board. I am not in academia, but that doesn't mean I can't empathize with many of you. What I do know is business. In many business situations, two facts are often common: 1) a rainmaker who has put together a great financial deal is often promoted to a high administrative position -- just because someone is good at making money, doesn't make them a good administrator; and 2) if the company is making money, in spite of a tyranical despot as the top administrator, boards are often leery of replacing the administrator.

That said, it appears the IHL has turned a blind eye to the situation at USM, in spite of the news, facts, and letters. But what else may make a difference? The bottom line will.

I'm just wondering, how much has the current administration cost USM and how much will they cost USM? What will be the financial impact on the State in the short term and in the long run?

An approx. cost of the continued salaries of Drs. Glasmer and Stringer of $250,000 was listed on this board. This doesn't include hiring replacements if they are needed.

How much did then entire hearing cost?

Many other professors are electing to retire due to the current atmosphere on campus. How much does it cost the university to pay them retirement and then pay for replacements? If they didn't retire, it would definitely be cheaper.

How much does each search for replacement professors cost?

How much will be lost if enrollment is down?

How much will the local community lose?

To get the IHL to start listening, maybe some cost analysis needs to be provided to them along with the letter writing, petitions, and demonstrations. Find out what IS important to the IHL and what would make them sit up and take notice. Then maybe we can see a change and hopefully before too much damage is done. Keep up the fight, good luck to you all.

Date: May 2, 2004

This is great idea advocate, thank you. Anyone with actual numbers, jump right in.

112 searches at easily $2,000 apiece = $224,000

Assumption that the Keith Law firm didn't work any cheaper or fewer hours than the Glamser/Stringer attorneys = $40,000.

Glamser/Stringer settlement (don't double count replacements) = $250,000

Quick rough pass at numbers with no data in just a couple of the categories puts us over half a million dollars!

Let's keep some other things in mind; today's HA talked about all of Shelby's financial accomplishments but many won't stand up to close scrutiny. The nursing building? The Trent Lott Center? Even the new High School Arts idea. There's a huge difference between proposed funding for a concept and money in the bank - watch out for the spin.

Someone in the past couple of days posted something along the lines of "at some point, the Board is going to get tired of cleaning up Shelby's messes" but I don't remember where I saw it. True words though.

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: Advocate
"I know I am ignorant when it comes to many of the topics you discuss on this board. I am not in academia,...

Advocate, Thank you. Victory over Thames and company will only come when the business community help the IHL understand this is bad business for our students, the economy and the community. All said and done, this is not about the faculty of which I am one.

Date: May 2, 2004

quote: Originally posted by: #cruncher
112 searches at easily $2,000 apiece = $224,000

I don't know how searches are conducted at the university level, but who pays for airfare and hotels? Are they advertised in trade journals? I know the cost to recruit a manager in a corporation is significantly higher than this (by at least 100%). $2,000 just seems extremely low.

Of course, the most difficult, if not impossible, number to crunch is lost productivity due to low moral.

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Advocate
""

Absolutely on all points - I wanted to show how easy it was to get to half a million dollars on even a most conservative basis. There's also nothing figured in for the opportunity cost loss of all the time and energy spent on this.

Date: May 2, 2004

What about the $$ the institution risks losing if the John Donne project found another home?

Date: May 2, 2004

You can add the numbers from the LSU Grad Student's report in the main page of this site as well.

Date: May 2, 2004

RE: our job now: What, Then, Must Be Done?