Thames Broke Agreement!

Date: May 1, 2004

Thames Broke Agreement!

Date: May 1, 2004

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040501/localnews/330545.html

From HA:
In a prepared statement, Thames said it was never his intent to financially harm Stringer or Glamser but it was "in the best interest of the university" that they leave.

"Under the terms of the agreement, the professors will not be reinstated or allowed to return to campus," Thames said.
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Does anyone have this "prepared statement" they all mention?

Date: May 1, 2004

I'm looking for it too. I thought the editorial in today's HA was a good one. Did Thames hold a press conference and wouldn't that have been telecast on one of the local stations?

Date: May 1, 2004

Greedy- I saw on another thread that you said you read Shelby's full statement last night. Where did you find it? Can you post it or link to it?

Date: May 1, 2004

Tiger:

I never saw any full prepared statement. The quotes were embedded in the newspaper articles, but were obviously spoken by the president in violation of the agreement.

I suspect, with the way things have gone, that Thames will NOT be called on this or even more statements to follow. He has been allowed to save face, within bounds, while I don't think the profs have been

It would be up to Addleman to call this but I doubt he will.

It is a shame.

These agreements are legally binding, yet why am I not surprised it took only hours for the plaintiffs to violate it. I think this shows the "cover" they are being given, and frankly, I really don't understand it.

Judge Anderson is out of it and he is not going to pay any attention to it. Watch what he says in "his" prepared comments. I do not detect any agenda in Anderson that would relate back to the civil rights days in which he fought agains this very same thing. He seems very happy in corporate lawyer land, and that is a normal career evolution.

He was asked to broker a settlement that did not make SFT look too bad, and when the evidence was going against his case, Anderson told both parties that there is no way to guarantee "their" side would prevail on the IHL, and that why risk it, so let's settle where the sides both get something.

It is obvious. Of course, with the lack of any evidence at all supporting weak charges, and the risk of corruption certainly to be exposed, many supporters of G/S cannot understand why they gave away so much.

We will have to wait a month or two. If SFT is still going strong, and certain predictable firings take place, then we will know the "fix" is in as was discussed in the Power blog.

Knowing Anderson, it is hard to believe such would be the case, but if it is, USM will enter a dark phase of anniahlation (sp?) the likes of which the state of Mississippi will not have seen since the mid 1960s. Then, it will be up to a new IHL board to decide whether USM will be relegated to a lower tiered regional campus, ranked below Jackson State.

Don't think for a minute that the representatives of JSU and other Delta schools are not salivating.

On the other hand, if tenure is disolved, then all 8 Mississippi universities lose, and we will have a transformation no one wants. I heard a rumor that Kyhat at Ole Miss sees the handwriting on the wall already, and is starting to make his voice heard.

Sad thing is, the support for the Klumb/IHL agenda to dismantle tenure is so small, yet the voices have commandered a politically omnipresent position, like the civil war battle of Little Round Top.........a very very few can hold off and destroy the many.

Our governors let this happen. They are ultimately to blame. South Mississippi, a republican hotbed, is watching now.

Date: May 1, 2004

Greedy - so eloquently said.

Date: May 1, 2004

Bump

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Flash Gordon
"Bump"

Here is a sobering thought:

Not only does Hanbury's new appointment attaching him to the AG's office further cement his position and further cut out Lee Gore, but now it makes him an even more powerful and frightening figure when he interrogates a faculty member. I think we can also expect any day for him to be named as university council. I suppose if Lee refuses to step down Hanburg can be appointed "Junior" Council.

I can tell you that if I am called in the see Hanbury, I will certainly not go without witnesses. In fact, I will probably not go without a lawyer. After all, it was clear that G&S were set up: Hanbury lied in telling them it was not an interrogation. If it had not been an interrogation then they should have been free to refuse to answer his questions.

I'm usually not like this but I have to say it: this guy is a sleeze. He is a mercenary, a hatchet man, a man with no conscience. He is devious and a liar. And he is truly an enemy.

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Alright, I am going to start a special page on the website entitled:

THAMES' VIOLATIONS OF APRIL 28 AGREEMENT

I want everyone to report any violations to me on this thread. Include a link to the article.

If he does it on the news, please go to the tv station's website, see if you can find the violation in text, and send the link.

Let's keep record of these violations--it will help our case in the future.

FS (mod)

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quote:
Originally posted by: present professor
" Here is a sobering thought: Not only does Hanbury's new appointment attaching him to the AG's office further cement his position and further cut out Lee Gore, but now it makes him an even more powerful and frightening figure when he interrogates a faculty member. I think we can also expect any day for him to be named as university council. I suppose if Lee refuses to step down Hanburg can be appointed "Junior" Council. I can tell you that if I am called in the see Hanbury, I will certainly not go without witnesses. In fact, I will probably not go without a lawyer. After all, it was clear that G&S were set up: Hanbury lied in telling them it was not an interrogation. If it had not been an interrogation then they should have been free to refuse to answer his questions. I'm usually not like this but I have to say it: this guy is a sleeze. He is a mercenary, a hatchet man, a man with no conscience. He is devious and a liar. And he is truly an enemy. "

Pres prof, if you are called, I and the Fire Shelby army of thousands will be your witnesses. Just post announcement on the message board, and we will accompany you to the dome. Gladly.

Date: May 1, 2004

Someone on another thread mentioned they heard Thame's entire statement read on WUSM. Would there be a way to get a copy from them somehow? I have not been able to find his complete statement anywhere- only selected quotes.

Date: May 1, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: present professor
" Not only does Hanbury's new appointment attaching him to the AG's office further cement his position and further cut out Lee Gore, but now it makes him an even more . . ."

another spin to this... it gives him more rope to hang himself if he represents the university in these 6 lawsuits pending litigation. We all know what an outstanding "risk manager" he is...

Date: May 2, 2004

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040430/NEWS01/40430014

Here is the link to the CL article I quote in the first post. It goes with this quote:

“I said from the beginning that it was never my intention to cause financial harm to Drs. Glamser and Stringer, but the evidence provided to me warranted by initiating dismissal proceedings,” Thames said in a statement.

“This matter could not have been taken light because the issues in this case were very serious, as the settlement agreement confirms,” he said.

Date: May 2, 2004

I'm trying to bump this to page one.

Date: May 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: wary undergrad
"another spin to this... it gives him more rope to hang himself if he represents the university in these 6 lawsuits pending litigation. We all know what an outstanding "risk manager" he is..."

It also means that when he "interviews" a faculty member, they have an immediate, not-open-for-discussion right to their own counsel. He got to play that game with G&S, because he technically wasn't "the college attorney."

My first reaction to AG Hood appointing Hanbury was that it was an underhanded attempt to erase a little perjury that happened Wednesday. Now, I'm inclined to think it was actually to rein in Hanburgy somewhat. Be that as it may, I hope every registered Mississippi voter remembers the way AG Hood has handled this when the next election rolls around & VOTE HIM OUT!!!