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truth4usm/AH

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A friend of mine just pointed out a very salient point in all of this mess:


Shelby's very first statement about all of this was to refute that this was about the professors' right to free speech.  If this is true, then why was their right to free speech cut off by the agreement?  You know that they didn't put that in there; it came directly from Shelby.  We now have confirmation in a legal document that this was ALL ABOUT FREE SPEECH from the beginning (and Shelby's fear of criticism).  This point needs to be hammered on in letters to the editors, etc.


Shelby, your attempts to limit USM faculty members' First Amendment rights are un-American, to say the least.  For this alone, you should be ashamed of yourself.



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Otherside

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See "Evidence of Loser" thread.

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truth4usm/AH

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Sorry if I re-created a thread/topic that has already been discussed.  I've had a hard time keeping up with the board this weekend.

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"Sorry if I re-created a thread/topic that has already been discussed.  I've had a hard time keeping up with the board this weekend."


No problem. This thread is better so I directed the other thread here.

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This issue bears repeating--and repeating.  Truth/AH, you're exactly right: the settlement's demand that Gary and Frank "refrain" from public criticism makes it very plain that for SFT the issue was, and always has been, speech.  So too did many, MANY of Thames' comments and statements in the hearing.  I was struck by how obviously vituperative SFT sounded in his final remarks, when he informed us that Frank and Gary would have to "pay the price" for questioning one of his "colleagues" (ironically, this was when he was trying to prove that the terminations didn't have anything to do with free speech . . . ).  The stunningly paranoid parsing of e-mails in the interest of charting Gary's "state of mind" constitutes another manifestation of this president's interest in silencing all dissent, public or private (or, "private," given what we now understand about the extent to which Thames and Co. have been spying on us and reading our e-mail). 


While the "public criticism" clause in the settlement is, of course, directed at  Gary and Frank, increasingly I have come to believe that its primary target is the rest of us.  It is meant to send a chilling message, I think: we'll keep listening.  And when you criticize us, we'll do our best to shut you up and shut you down.   The fact that it's there indicates SFT's continued commitment to intimidation tactics.  But, interestingly enough, it indicates his sheer desperation as well--for only one whose hold on power is getting shakier by the minute would make such an admission about his fear of criticism and dissent. 


As many, many have said already, the IHL Board must be our audience now.   And that Board needs to understand that NO university can function this way (no business can, probably, either; but by definition, the university CANNOT).  If I am afraid, I cannot genuinely inquire.  I cannot teach.  I cannot write.  And I cannot help prepare my students to lead lives as productive citizens of our society.  Period.   


No quarter.


Ellen Weinauer


p.s. A few people have indicated in other threads the despair they felt after reading the American story about "healing."  I felt the same way until I read it again and realized the impact that Bobby Chain's comparison between Thames and Hitler could have.  When BC says the tactics of the Thames administration smack of "Nazism," we're in a whole new world. 



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lvn

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I would appreciate some older hands filling us in on the significane of the Bobby Chain situation.  From the little I know (he was mayor, he was on the IHL, and someone told me he's somehow related to SFT) I get the sense that his position now is crucial and that the change is very, very important.  When SFT became prez, someone told me the "official" celebration was held at the Chains' home.  A little more info would be helpful.

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truth4usm/AH

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"I would appreciate some older hands filling us in on the significane of the Bobby Chain situation.  From the little I know (he was mayor, he was on the IHL, and someone told me he's somehow related to SFT) I get the sense that his position now is crucial and that the change is very, very important.  When SFT became prez, someone told me the "official" celebration was held at the Chains' home.  A little more info would be helpful."

What I know is that Bobby Chain was pro-Thames until something happened (was it F&G's situation?), and then he has become one of the few alum/$$ critics of Thames.  He's our best ally in the community, from what I can see reported in the media.  Anyone else care to fill in the blanks?

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