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Adam Sencenbaugh

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Obvioulsy, more than just getting rid of SFT.

The reason I started this thread is I wanted to try and distill some of the arguments, values, and motivations of those who want to keep Shelby in office. From reading the letters to the editor by a number of his various supporters, I think there are a number of things they have in common.

First and foremost is an unusual strain of anti-intellectualism. Some might say this is a traditional American value, at least on some level. Americans often prefer the home spun wisdom to that of the bookish elitist. But, one would think that would end when it comes to the university. I think this then morphs into this idea that SFT is a businessman, a doer, and a "captain of industry" type (sorry, that's even tough to type with a straight face) and is therefore superior to the thinker, the dry and ponderous intellectual.

Second may be some form of provincialism. This, I believe, is the most dangerous of all for our side of the issue. For whatever reason, the professors and faculty are seen by those in the community to represent the "them," the different, the unlike us. Maybe this even touches base with the "agitators" of days gone by. Clearly, anyone up to speed with the situation knows this is absurd. But yet, the framework is easy to plug into, and allows the casual observer a number of straw men to throw stones at.

Ironically, the one value I thought would pop up would be a little rebelliousness, in the mold of the Scotch-Irish that settled the south, those frontiersmen who were constantly fighting with one English King or another, then translated that into fighting Washington for a century and still crop up from time to time over various issues. Certianly Shelby is the one in power, the tyrant to be rebelled against, who daily gives evidences of his abuse of power. Where is that rebel attitude when you need it?

Yet we have seen the opposite. An unhealthy, almost Germanic sense of authoritarianism has taken root, allowing him to enjoy a modicum of support from the community at large. For example, Shelby is the boss, and those that don't like it can go somewhere else! This totally undercuts the above, and seems somewhat counterintuitive?

What does the rest of this board think? Are these good estimates, or am I completely off base?

Just wanted to think out loud for a few minutes...mainly because I have been baffled by some peoples inability to look at the facts of what has happened and continue dogged support of SFT, come hell or high water...

Any thoughts...?



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educator

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Adam,


You are exactly correct.  I think provincialism has a lot to do with the problems plaguing USM.  No matter what the faculty does - they appear to be the outsiders.  The Thames problems will however soon, if not already, plague the owners of businesses that, to a great extent, depend on the people connected with USM as customers/consumers of their goods.  I'm not talking about people boycotting certain businesses either.


What university truly is going to go along with the Myway or the Highway attitude?  Thames best move would be to, under the guise of some belief, create his own university - much like Oral Roberts and Bob Jones did.  Then he can be the Kingpin as he obviously is trying to be at USM.  He's playing a game with a public university  -- although the Kingpin ploy is apparently not working well at some private institutions either. 


You can't attract a diverse body of students, faculty, and staff without an allowance for a diversity of beliefs.  In Shelby's World, everyone is entitled to his opinion. Period.



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Robert Campbell

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In Shelby's World, everyone is entitled to his opinion. Period."


Perfect!

Robert Campbell

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Angeline

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Provincialism coupled with a particular religious-social outlook and inherent distrust/dislike of those not like themselves (sometimes this is racism, sometimes anti-Yankee, sometimes anti-intellectual, sometimes anti-liberal - you name it) plagues SFT and many of his supporters.  It is in this way that Mississippi has changed very little, at least not among these powerful "stakeholders."

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Adam's comments, which are very much to the point, raised one question in my mind.  Apologies if this has gone around already.  But, has SFT ever actually been in business or worked in management?  I ask this as a person who has had one foot in academia and one in the "business" world, back and forth, for many years.  I don't see too much going on at USM that I would call business-like, and yet, that's all we hear about.

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Robert Campbell

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As I mentioned on another thread, a former President of Clemson spent a year as a corporate executive after he was pushed out of the Presidency.  No one expected him to be very good at it--he got the position courtesy of a supporter who was a big donor to CU--and all indications are that he wasn't.


I doubt Thames would last 3 months as a CEO of a profit-making business.  He would put incompetent yes-men and women in important positions, hardly anyone would want to work for him, and he wouldn't accept any evidence that he was setting the wrong direction for the company.  Very soon, he would either be removed from his position or the company would be in danger of failure.


Your typical university president is a type of politician.  Like politicians, they want to take credit for everything that goes well, and they dodge responsiblity for anything that goes badly.  Accountability is for others, not for them.


Robert Campbell



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