An Acceptable Compromise?

Date: May 9, 2004

An Acceptable Compromise?

Date: May 9, 2004

The only problem I see with that compromise is the obvious -- Shelby Thames's ego. He doesn't understand the meaning of compromise. He never really has, and he never really will. I sometimes wonder if a man (any color of blood, any heritage) really lurks behind that enormous ego. Even if he was made to "accept" those type of terms, he'd never carry out his end of the bargain. For instance, how many days/hours was it after the G & S settlement that he had to go and shoot off his mouth? He just couldn't let it be settled and uphold his end of the terms. Sadly, he is not going to change. His brigade can go first or they can all go together. Unless we can find yet a newer use for duct tape, his mouth will never stop yapping.

Date: May 9, 2004

The problem with any compromise is that it will leave USM in a sad state for the next two years. We will not progress, indeed likely will regress more, and will lose more people who find the place too depressing to stay. Even if SFT quit tomorrow, and we ended up with a quality interim admisitration, and hired a decent president next year, it will take 5 years to restore USM to its pre SFT state. The sooner SFT leaves, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

Date: May 9, 2004

Remember that the only thing bigger than the ole Shelboo's ego is his desire to be President. If a previous thread is correct, and "Klumb and Klumber" has required Shelboo to provide a "heeling" plan at the next IHL board meeting we may have a chance. Perhaps we could negotiate a compromise and call a truce with Shelboo. This would allow him a plan to take to the board that would be acceptable to all the faculty. Perhaps we could protect the faculty with this plan and get some enforcement from the board. If the board accepts the compromise plan, and Shelboo reneges they could hand him is hat and point him to the door.

Date: May 9, 2004

No! Thames himself IS the problem. THere is no "neutalizing" him without removal. The others will drop off the face of the USM planet instantly, as Thame's is the ONLY thing holding them in place.

Fire Shelby · Status: Offline

Speaking for myself, only: NO COMPROMISE! Shelby OUT! PERIOD!

This "experiment" has failed miserably. It's time to abandon mission.

Date: May 9, 2004

Amen, no quarter. I've seen too many egos like this. He A.) won't do it and B.) couldn't do it if he tried.

Date: May 9, 2004

No Quarter

Date: May 9, 2004

With all due respect Dr. Chambers, there can be no compromise. In one of STF's early speeches before a small group of faculty and students, he described himself as the "hooking bull", a reference to the bull in the yard that is the leader of the herd. I must agree with educator STF's ego will NOT allow a compromise to exist. HE will NOT change. He "believes" his way is the correct path for USM. His past history, his sense of "always being right" and again his ego will NOT allow any form of compromise to take place. In an earlier post, a reference was made to how he broke the agreement within hours and verbally made comments about how G&S were "not reinstated". This man has a monster size ego amd MUST go.

Date: May 9, 2004

In a conversation with one of the inside circle last year I was told that Shelby instructed his circle to "get on board or get out". He surrounds himself with "yes men" in order to not hear other points of view. Look at those who have been removed from the dome over the past two years - my guess is they challenged the Thames mandate. There is no room for compromise with someone like him. He doesn't get it. He must go.

NO QUARTER.

Date: May 9, 2004

I don't believe there is any hope for a productive environment at USM as long as Thames remains in the Dome. What people need to be talking about in the way of compromise is how to accommodate the vision of the university as a conduit of "economic development" without sacrificing academic integrity.

Date: May 9, 2004

I also think that Thames' massive ego makes any compromise (such as 2 more years as President, under strict conditions and without any of his present henchrew) impossible.

If somehow, Thames could be talked into accepting the compromise, he would immediately try to assemble a new henchcrew, or violate the provisions in some other obvious fashion.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 9, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Voice of Reason?
"Given Dr. Douglas Chambers' very well reasoned letter on the new string called "Justifying Ends" and several other posts this past week, does it make sense to give voice to a succinct compromise that could be presented to the IHL Board? A compromise that is just that, a realistic meeting in the middle that may be able to satisfy both sides? If Shelby Thames is formally required to remove Dvorak, Dvorak, Hudson, and COO Malone from the administrative team, could this neutralized Shelby Thames finish out his two years in office?
Please don't slam me or Dr. Chambers - just a thought. If you don't like this, please share your compromise plan here."

Just a personal opinion here, but NICE try Shelby, don't go away mad, just go away.

Date: May 9, 2004

V of R and Dr. Chambers (whom I deeply respect), I feel that there is no way to extract an antidote from the vipers' drool in the Dome. The venom spewed by Shelbrau in the hearings and that bobbleheaded smirk has poisoned the atmosphere. We need fresh air and clear waters. Send the Goat People down the Thames pool, and let healing waters replenish the grounds of USM.

Power @ the hands of the people.

Date: May 9, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"I also think that Thames' massive ego makes any compromise (such as 2 more years as President, under strict conditions and without any of his present henchrew) impossible. If somehow, Thames could be talked into accepting the compromise, he would immediately try to assemble a new henchcrew, or violate the provisions in some other obvious fashion. Robert Campbell"

On Target!!!