6:30 Graduation News???

Date: May 14, 2004

6:30 Graduation News???

Date: May 14, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Otherside
"Does anyone have a report on the 6:30 graduation? I believe Klumb was to attend that one."

Klumb left early for some reason - Barbour left right after his "bring everyone to religion" speech - a couple of students had Impeach Thames stickers/button - many faculty had AAUP or no quarter buttons and little broom pins - someone in the faculty held up a no quarter banner towards the end - several students refused to shake SFT's hand - Rachel Q. got a loud round of applause and many faculty stood for her - she refused to shake SFT's hand and appeared to tell him off for several seconds as she stood in front of him (she is taller than him). Otherwise, fairly lackluster.

Date: May 14, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Klumb left early for some reason - Barbour left right after his "bring everyone to religion" speech - a couple of students had Impeach Thames stickers/button - many faculty had AAUP or no quarter buttons and little broom pins - someone in the faculty held up a no quarter banner towards the end - several students refused to shake SFT's hand - Rachel Q. got a loud round of applause and many faculty stood for her - she refused to shake SFT's hand and appeared to tell him off for several seconds as she stood in front of him (she is taller than him). Otherwise, fairly lackluster."

Thanks Angeline. I knew CoAL graduation would be more interesting than CoST.

Date: May 14, 2004

Barbour didn't make his nod to polymer science or talk about economic development or commercialization at 6:30. Maybe he forgot, or he cut to the chase since he had to leave early.

Date: May 14, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: foot soldier
"Barbour didn't make his nod to polymer science or talk about economic development or commercialization at 6:30. Maybe he forgot, or he cut to the chase since he had to leave early."

Maybe someone told him he was addressing Arts and Letters. Polymer Science was in the afternoon. The PR department seems to know their business.

Date: May 14, 2004

Ricki Garret was at the 6:30 graduation and got a fairly good round of applause but when Roy Klumb was announced, there was minimal applause and none from the faculty.

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quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Klumb left early for some reason - Barbour left right after his "bring everyone to religion" speech ."

"Bring everyone to religion" speech? Do elaborate, please.

Date: May 14, 2004

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Originally posted by:
""Bring everyone to religion" speech? Do elaborate, please. "

Seriously, half his speech was about how these college-aged (adults) need to put God back into their lives, and how the U.S. was founded on the back of religion (one of the biggest misconceptions in this part of the country), and how God needs to be "restored" to the public sphere. It would have made Jerry Falwell proud. Now, what did his talk have to do with earning a college degree?: little to nothing.

Date: May 14, 2004

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Originally posted by:
""Bring everyone to religion" speech? Do elaborate, please. "

Well, Billy Graham he ain't. Hope he keeps his day job. Oh, wait, no I don't. I didn't vote for him and I was quite proud of that fact tonight.

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quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Seriously, half his speech was about how these college-aged (adults) need to put God back into their lives, and how the U.S. was founded on the back of religion (one of the biggest misconceptions in this part of the country), and how God needs to be "restored" to the public sphere. It would have made Jerry Falwell proud. Now, what did his talk have to do with earning a college degree?: little to nothing."

That's what I figured--thanks for the info. I am not shocked, though.

Date: May 14, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Klumb left early for some reason - Barbour left right after his "bring everyone to religion" speech - a couple of students had Impeach Thames stickers/button - many faculty had AAUP or no quarter buttons and little broom pins - someone in the faculty held up a no quarter banner towards the end - several students refused to shake SFT's hand - Rachel Q. got a loud round of applause and many faculty stood for her - she refused to shake SFT's hand and appeared to tell him off for several seconds as she stood in front of him (she is taller than him). Otherwise, fairly lackluster."

I'm interested in what Rachel Q. said to Thames....Rachel, do tell.

Date: May 14, 2004

Even Holy Bobber was bored by his own speech, which he mailed in. He was somewhere else, doubtless wishing he were addressing the more prestigious grads of ole miss (I remind the message board that when he gave the commencement speech last summer he began by saying, at least 3 times ((and in my fury i lost count)), leaning over the podium like a favorite uncle, "Now I dont want a single one of you graduates ever to be ashamed of your degree from usm." Shelbo beamed. Bobber was the only person within a hundred mile radius of the commencement who thought anybody there SHOULD be ashamed of a usm degree). He stunk, big time. I'm never going to another graduation, for fear of having to listen to another sermon.

When I meet Shelby in hell one of these days, the first thing I'm going to ask him is, "What the f***?"

quote:

Originally posted by: Angeline
"Seriously, half his speech was about how these college-aged (adults) need to put God back into their lives, and how the U.S. was founded on the back of religion (one of the biggest misconceptions in this part of the country), and how God needs to be "restored" to the public sphere. It would have made Jerry Falwell proud. Now, what did his talk have to do with earning a college degree?: little to nothing."

Date: May 14, 2004

"bump."

Date: May 15, 2004

Hi,

I just wanted to say thank you to all the faculty who were there at graduation applauding me--Noel Polk, Ellen Weinauer, Susan Malone, Stephen Judd, Myron Henry, David Goff and the many, many others --you all were wonderful!! I can't tell you how much it means to me to know I have and have had such amazing support. You all have been amazing and the support you have given has influenced me more than you know.

But basically the conversations between Thames and I was as follows:

Thames: I'm so proud of you, Rachel.

Rachel: I can't shake your hand Dr. Thames.

Thames: I understand.

Rachel: You didn't show many any respect this year, so I cannot show you any in return.

Thames: Congratulations. (rushed me off the stage.)

This was essesially the conversation, very brief, but as you all can imagine, v. memorable!

Best wishes to all, Rachel Quinlivan

Date: May 15, 2004

Rachel,

You and I never met, but I was one of the faculty who stood and clapped for you and who admired tremendously your work on the Printz. Congratulations on your graduation and on maintaining a proper sense of ethics under very trying circumstances. I look forward to hearing great things about you in the future. We'll miss you.

Date: May 15, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Rachel, You and I never met, but I was one of the faculty who stood and clapped for you and who admired tremendously your work on the Printz. Congratulations on your graduation and on maintaining a proper sense of ethics under very trying circumstances. I look forward to hearing great things about you in the future. We'll miss you."

Rachel, I also stood and clapped. Thanks for all your efforts this year, and to all at the Printz in general. It is a fine publication, and all of you are to be congratulated not only for rising to the occasion in the news of concern to the FS board, but also for your serious efforts to represent all points of view in general in all the stories this year. I plan to keep my last Printz. I hope you'll seriously consider applying for the award mentioned on another thread. It would not only reflect well on you, but on the Printz and USM Journalism in general.

Word, if you're still reading this board, I want you to know that when I stood and clapped for Rachel, I was also thinking of you and clapping for your success as well. So please, even if no one was making a noise in the coliseum when you crossed the stage, realize that someone was applauding you and does so still, writing this.

Speaking of reporting, I don't think anyone has mentioned that one of the faculty mortarboards sported a bumper sticker.

I think the best regalia award should go to Ken Panton, dean of the Honors College. (Best accent, too.)

Date: May 15, 2004

Drew Walker was decked out in buttons--didn't know TGI Fridays required masters degree. Then he rushed passed Thames--I guess table #3 needed more iced tea.

Date: May 15, 2004

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Originally posted by: TGIF
"Drew Walker was decked out in buttons--didn't know TGI Fridays required masters degree. Then he rushed passed Thames--I guess table #3 needed more iced tea."

He was just showing his "pieces of flair!"

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quote:
Originally posted by: TGIF
"Drew Walker was decked out in buttons--didn't know TGI Fridays required masters degree. Then he rushed passed Thames--I guess table #3 needed more iced tea."

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Date: May 15, 2004

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Originally posted by:
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FS, have you seen the movie "Office Space?" Go rent it if you haven't (it's hilariously funny)...then you'll understand the reference above.

Date: May 15, 2004

Thanks to those who made the buttons, brooms/dustpans, etc, available for faculty. No thanks to Haley Barbour, who delivered not a commencement address but a political speech that was, to my mind, at once tedious and offensive. (I am supposed to help ensure that prayer stays in the public square, according to the honorable HB.) Thanks to all of those students who have worked--either out in the open or behind the scenes--to support the faculty and who communicate, in doing so, their understanding about the real principles of the university. It was really really nice when you all turned and applauded the faculty--I always feel proud at that moment of what it is we (students and faculty together) do, and this time I felt even prouder. The "protest" was quiet, but I don't think lackluster--small but potent moments reminding SFT that there IS dissent, but nothing that would ruin the night for the grads or turn people against those of us who reject the Thames regime. We minded our manners, but found ways to get the message across.

Rachel, I was so glad to be able to stand for you. For those who don't know, a few years ago the Printz was, err, not really the place you went for news (my favorite gaffe was the dateline that gave the year as 20,000). I don't know when it really turned around, but for sure under Robbie Ward's editorship it became definitively a different paper. Rachel has carried that commitment forward, with integrity and professionalism and courage. Thanks for the work you have done--and best of luck to you as you move into what will surely be a bright future.

To all those who graduated and who face their own bright futures--congratulations. And please stay apprised of doings at USM--you're alumni now, and your voices are that much more important!

EW

Date: May 15, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: TGIF
"Drew Walker was decked out in buttons--didn't know TGI Fridays required masters degree. Then he rushed passed Thames--I guess table #3 needed more iced tea."

Hope that wasn't a slam against Drew! He's been very dedicated to this campaign. He was the first to pointedly NOT shake Shelboo's hand. Congrats, Drew, I'm going to miss you!

Date: May 15, 2004

Mostly everyone got my propers on last night. As to the backbiters, Bite ON!

Did I need a moral lesson from Brer' Barbour? Takling about the pot...! In this midst of all his lobbying (again!) I doubt short of his high school that he didn't plug anything that is directly associated with corruption, lies, or the "good-old-boy" network. Anyone who can laud Shelby, Trent, Reagan, and Bush in the same speech got zero love from my side. My peeps said I looked disgusted on the video, and they knew I wouldn't salute a flag of sedition no matter whose heritage it was. Look up your history, there's far more for The Beiges to proud of than bloodshed. That is unless you endorse Farmer Barbour's techniques for growing freedom in this country.

'Ova, I got love for ya' son. The Avenue is still tripping off the upraised fist. It wasn't part of the script, but that's you.

RASTAS UNITE!

POWER TO THE CLASS (and what class we have) of 2K4.

Date: May 15, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Marley's Son
"Mostly everyone got my propers on last night. As to the backbiters, Bite ON! Did I need a moral lesson from Brer' Barbour? Takling about the pot...! In this midst of all his lobbying (again!) I doubt short of his high school that he didn't plug anything that is directly associated with corruption, lies, or the "good-old-boy" network. Anyone who can laud Shelby, Trent, Reagan, and Bush in the same speech got zero love from my side. My peeps said I looked disgusted on the video, and they knew I wouldn't salute a flag of sedition no matter whose heritage it was. Look up your history, there's far more for The Beiges to proud of than bloodshed. That is unless you endorse Farmer Barbour's techniques for growing freedom in this country. 'Ova, I got love for ya' son. The Avenue is still tripping off the upraised fist. It wasn't part of the script, but that's you. RASTAS UNITE! POWER TO THE CLASS (and what class we have) of 2K4."

Will someone please translate this into English? Thanks.

Date: May 15, 2004

For Info,

Apparently your response is proof positive that multiculturalism and diversity is as much of a theory at this campus as 'shared governance." O.K. Here's your primer.

My deepest respect goes to those who had enough pride in their accomplishments to accept their degrees with dignity befitting the occasion. Whether it was the actions of the student who made clumsy, awkward steps to dodge the University President, the young man who emulated a vaudeville routine by faking a handshake by rubbibg his scalp, or by a selected student (your symbol) speaking to Your university President in respectful but frank tones, all these actions were observed by the attendees of the graduation.

Many will believe that the solemnity of the ceremony was besmirshed by the juvenile antics as maturity dictates that you confront an emeny face to face so as not to sink below them. My own personal message to Dr. Thames was done without the endorsement of the "English" speakers on this board, it was personal, and it was understood with as much passion as those who can placed an upraised fist in this nation's history of dissent.

As for your misunderstanding of my English in reference to your Governor's remarks, if that tobacco-garbled dribble held more resonance for you as he was framed by Dr. Thames and the "Stars and Bars" than my praise for the class of 2004 (and the praise of others not frequenting Front Street establishments), then there is little outside of this offering of a comprehension drill that you will ever understand about fifteen percent of the university's population, or dear old Mississippi.

I ended my comments to celebrate a comrade's equal feelings of pride for a measurable accomplishment at the University of Southern Miss.

Info, it's a joy to know that the warmth of Hattiesburg shone so graciously on your actions to bring USM together. We appreciate it.

Date: May 15, 2004

1. White is the color of the interface these letters are on, a skin tone of Caucasians is "Beige.

2. The heroes of Gov. Barbour speech all share the reckless nature to shed others' blood in preservation of heritage. Sounds like an illegal war started in a region of the United States against your goverrnment about 140 years ago.

3. 'Ova posted to "College Backlash." Perhaps his whimisical renderings of last night's events are more appropriate to your limited background in languages.

4. Power is what people who possess it do not have to shout.

5. A backbiter is like a crab in a bucket of other crustaceans that will use his claw to grasp at another crab finding freedom at the top of the hamper, therefore imperiling both to a boiling death. Backbiter often never propose thoughts but instead vigorously pull at anyone that advances without them. My suggestion: "PULL THIS."

Sorry my English is soooo awful. Must have something to do with Admissions or maybe my athletic scholarship. My bad (trans. my mistake, Tan-in-a-Can).

Date: May 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Marley's Son's Son
"For Info, Apparently your response is proof positive that multiculturalism and diversity is as much of a theory at this campus as 'shared governance." O.K. Here's your primer. My deepest respect goes to those who had enough pride in their accomplishments to accept their degrees with dignity befitting the occasion. Whether it was the actions of the student who made clumsy, awkward steps to dodge the University President, the young man who emulated a vaudeville routine by faking a handshake by rubbibg his scalp, or by a selected student (your symbol) speaking to Your university President in respectful but frank tones, all these actions were observed by the attendees of the graduation. Many will believe that the solemnity of the ceremony was besmirshed by the juvenile antics as maturity dictates that you confront an emeny face to face so as not to sink below them. My own personal message to Dr. Thames was done without the endorsement of the "English" speakers on this board, it was personal, and it was understood with as much passion as those who can placed an upraised fist in this nation's history of dissent. As for your misunderstanding of my English in reference to your Governor's remarks, if that tobacco-garbled dribble held more resonance for you as he was framed by Dr. Thames and the "Stars and Bars" than my praise for the class of 2004 (and the praise of others not frequenting Front Street establishments), then there is little outside of this offering of a comprehension drill that you will ever understand about fifteen percent of the university's population, or dear old Mississippi. I ended my comments to celebrate a comrade's equal feelings of pride for a measurable accomplishment at the University of Southern Miss. Info, it's a joy to know that the warmth of Hattiesburg shone so graciously on your actions to bring USM together. We appreciate it."

Thanks for the information. I suspect my lack of knowledge it is more "generational" than "multicultural" but perhaps there is no difference between the two?

Date: May 17, 2004

I just got back in town. I left right after I graduated at 2:30. I couldn't believe that Barbour went on and on and on and on about making god the most important thing in your life. Then he said something about how a college is an economic endeavor or something like that. Then he did the Polymer Science plug. THEN.. he used the worn out joke about the guy at Yale that gave the graduation speech about what each letter stood for and the speech about YALE went on for an hour and then someone said.. Im glad we arent graduating from Mississippi. BUT HERE IS THE BEST PART.. HE said that GEORGE BUSH TOLD HIM that it happened to him like it was a first hand experience.

Date: May 17, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: flyonthewall
"I just got back in town. I left right after I graduated at 2:30. I couldn't believe that Barbour went on and on and on and on about making god the most important thing in your life. Then he said something about how a college is an economic endeavor or something like that. Then he did the Polymer Science plug. THEN.. he used the worn out joke about the guy at Yale that gave the graduation speech about what each letter stood for and the speech about YALE went on for an hour and then someone said.. Im glad we arent graduating from Mississippi. BUT HERE IS THE BEST PART.. HE said that GEORGE BUSH TOLD HIM that it happened to him like it was a first hand experience."

He may have. Bush graduated from Yale (also has an MBA from Harvard) and it's probably an old joke there too.

Date: May 17, 2004

I believe Barbour referred to Bush 41 when he mentioned the Yale speech because he said something like "when Bush was vice president he told me..."

That's what I gathered from his rambling speech.