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Crystal Ball

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A few days ago, I made a prediction about Bobby Chain.  Wish I had mentioned him by name because it would increase my credibility now.  Ram, thank you for noticing.


Tim Hudson is coming after Dean Doty, period.  Why?  Because Harold Doty has been exposing his bull.... and subjecting his underhanded dealings to some sunlight.  An oft-quoted remark that Doty said to Hudson in a meeting last fall is "Tim, you can't buff a turd."  I don't remember the details but it seems like it was about trying to sell the faculty on teaching more for less while trying to convince the faculty that it was a privilige. 


Like all snakes, Hudson prefers to strike from underneath his rock but he is getting desperate.  That's what much of this is about.  Some of you newer posters on the website and outsiders, go back and read through the earlier threads and you will gain a much better appreciation of what is going on here.  It is all about power and control of economic development - all of it.  Doty is a pawn in a much bigger picture in the politics of the state, the IHL board, and the university.  He's drawn into it because he is dean of the college of business and economic development.


Should the College of Business Administration have been merged with the department of economic development (or any of the 9 colleges merged into 5 and the deans of those colleges fired so unceremoniously)?  Arguably not, but they were and Doty was brought in, the product of a national search, chaired by a well-respected academic administrator.  Doty, by the way, is a highly respected scholar and administrator with a national reputation (see his cv on line).  Doty came in with these mandates - merge economic development into the business school - raise money for a new building - make the business school "world-class". 


Well, there were huge challenges with the mandates.  Doty inherited Tim Hudson (Provost), Angie Dvorak (VP of R&D), Ken Malone (ex-graduate student of Shelby Thames, Dept. Chair of Economic Development, now also Coast COO), Greg Lassen (current Econ Development PhD graduate student, originally brought in to start internet program, now VP of Finance) all in the economic development department, which was just one department in the college.   Sometime in the fall, he also got Cynthia Easterling Moore's department of Fashion Merchandising.  As has been discussed ad nauseum for months, none of these individuals have any business background - not a single business degree among them.  At every turn, either Hudson or Dvorak thwarted any and all efforts by Doty to integrate economic development in ways that would help the new CBED to increase its quality reputation and maintain its AACSB accreditation.   Why?  First, because, Angie Dvorak only cares about grant funding and Doty told her that faculty in CBED would build their reputations on quality research, quality teaching, and quality service.  Grant funding success, although welcome, would not replace the other criteria in faculty evaluations.  Next, because Hudson started the PhD in economic development program (IDV) and cares only about its success - wants a couple hundred graduate students taught on-line in a Phoenix-like model with no checks and balances for quality - he opposes the rigorous standards imposed on CBED by the AACSB.  Doty repeatedly fought with him about short-term decisions that would hurt CBED in the long-run. 


On the fundraising side, Doty came into a situation where he was told up front that there were going to be two buildings - one was a business building and one was an economic development building.  Given that he had been hired to run one combined College of Business and Economic Development, OF COURSE he questioned the need for two buildings and argued for the consolidation of the two.  This was especially important because there was a great deal of concern, even from his own Business Advisory Council, that there was not enough capital out there for two buildings, especially if there were some redundancies.  He was repeatedly told that the politics of the state were such that there had to be two buildings and that he needed to back off of any involvement in the Trent Lott Center and focus only on the college of business building.  That's what he did. 


Ken Malone is completely out of control - out of Dean Doty's control that is, but also a pawn in this charade.  Malone has the complete support of Tim Hudson (who uses him to weaken Doty) to do things like attempt to set up unapproved programs (examples include an executive MBA on the coast and an executive economic development masters on-line), hire unqualified people (example Richard Hadden, MD listed on the economic development website), ignore the faculty vote to accept the GMAT versus the GRE for graduate students, accept unqualified graduate students and then give them all "A" grades, get away with flagrant disregard for college policies and governance processes.  Ken Malone also has the complete support of Angie Dvorak because they are "of a mind" when it comes to the commercialization of USM.  Also, they share that neither of them are "academics".  Finally, Ken Malone (as Shelby's ex-graduate student) has the direct ear of the president who has certainly been getting an earful (no doubt at Tim and Angie's urgings) about how Doty rains on Malone's every attempt to be creative about increasing enrollment. 


Why is all this coming to a head now?  I don't think it's much of a secret that Dean Doty obtained outside legal counsel (nebulous and misguided though it was) over the Open Documents request by Faculty Senate.  Hudson was FURIOUS over this because responding to faculty senate was going to PROVE that: 1) he, HUDSON, had been warned in writing that the mid-year raise process was a mistake and that 2) he, HUDSON, would be the person exposed for changing the recommendations of the Deans and their colleges to reward and punish individuals as he saw fit.  It was HUDSON who spoke openly about Dean Doty's "gross insubordination" because it was HIS instructions that Dean Doty refused to follow when it came to keeping the raise information from faculty senate.  It was Hudson who brought this to the attention of Jack Hanbury, leading to the much-publicized, ill-fated memo from Jack Hanbury to the deans.  Rumor has it that Hudson leaked the memo to get Shelby to fire Doty with the hope that firing a dean would be the final straw contributing to his demise.  Hudson has since been trying to minimize Doty's role in this by steering conversation (and subsequent belief) on this website that the Attorney General had a plan all along to get rid of Hanbury.  Those of you who buy that have seriously misread what happened.  Hudson knows who took Hanbury down and knows that he is next and he's doing everything in his power to stay alive.  He'll survive or Doty will but probably not both of them.  Doty has his flaws and his normal administrative opponents, many of whom are trying to stir the pot right now, but at least he won't melt in the sunlight. 


Ultimately, this is going to play out by much bigger fish in the sea.  Powerful friends to the university, powerful community leaders, state and university politicians, and those who want control of USM, however they can obtain it, are not going to worry very much about a dean or even a provost in the greater scheme of things.  What a shame for faculty and students.  Again, for the outsiders, you must come to understand that not everyone who opposes Thames is on your side and not everyone who thinks Thames has been getting some very bad advice is against you. 


Good luck to you all.  I am done posting.



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USM Sympathizer

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Crystal,


I don't understand: why are you leaving? 



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Newgirl

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Crystal Ball, you should change your name to "DEEP THROAT".

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truth4usm/AH

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Ummm..interesting post, but still this seems like mostly conjecture and rumor (albeit well-stated). 


Also, you state "Rumor has it that Hudson leaked the memo to get Shelby to fire Doty with the hope that firing a dean would be the final straw contributing to his demise. "


Hmmm....if I remember correctly, it was a relative of someone who actually *received* the memo that leaked it on this board.  Can't go down that road with you, Crystal Ball.



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Robert Campbell

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Crystal,


There is much valuable detail in what you are saying, but:


Why would Hanbury lean on the deans for Hudson's benefit?  Didn't Hanbury answer only to Thames (before Jim Hood became his boss)?  Hasn't Thames marginalized Hudson, if not cut him off at the knees?  Would Thames accept any advice from Hudson on anything?


Further....


Didn't Thames have as much interest as Hudson in keeping details about the mid-year raises out of the hands of the Faculty Senate?


Robert Campbell



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friend of the other Hudson

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Crystall Ball, you are quoted as:


Arguably not, but they were and Doty was brought in, the product of a national search, chaired by a well-respected academic administrator.


This search was in trouble from the get-go.  Why did Bill Hudson resign from the search committee in frustration, and why did other members?  Because laws were being broken (ask eeoc); it's no secret he's not fond of his cousin.  It may have been a national search, but it was far from proper I hear.



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Gossip Monger

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Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH

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Also, you state "Rumor has it that Hudson leaked the memo to get Shelby to fire Doty with the hope that firing a dean would be the final straw contributing to his demise. "
Hmmm....if I remember correctly, it was a relative of someone who actually *received* the memo that leaked it on this board.  Can't go down that road with you, Crystal Ball.
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Truth/AH,

While I cannot vouch for the legitimacy of the Crystal post, or the accuracy of the facts and suppositions therein, I can offer this. Your assumption that receipt of the Hanbury memo by this board from a "relative of someone who actually received the memo" undermines Crystal's account rests on a flawed premise--that the memo was leaked only by this individual, and only to FS. Hudson has privately taken credit for releasing the memo, was gleeful that it was so crudely worded, and has indicated that it was done specifically to either weaken or mortally wound Doty, and to a lesser extent, Thames. Given the inflamatory nature of the memo, and its putatively illegal directive to the deans, it's not a stretch to imagine that more than one leak would have occurred--the one orchestrated by Hudson, and at least one other. Again, I do not claim that Crystal's account is accurate in all respects, but where the memo is concerned, he/she knows whereof he/she speaks.

GM

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truth4usm/AH

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" Truth/AH, While I cannot vouch for the legitimacy of the Crystal post, or the accuracy of the facts and suppositions therein, I can offer this. Your assumption that receipt of the Hanbury memo by this board from a "relative of someone who actually received the memo" undermines Crystal's account rests on a flawed premise--that the memo was leaked only by this individual, and only to FS. Hudson has privately taken credit for releasing the memo, was gleeful that it was so crudely worded, and has indicated that it was done specifically to either weaken or mortally wound Doty, and to a lesser extent, Thames. Given the inflamatory nature of the memo, and its putatively illegal directive to the deans, it's not a stretch to imagine that more than one leak would have occurred--the one orchestrated by Hudson, and at least one other. Again, I do not claim that Crystal's account is accurate in all respects, but where the memo is concerned, he/she knows whereof he/she speaks. GM"


GM:


I wasn't saying that CB's post was entirely flawed because of this one misstatement.  Rather, I was pointing out that Hudson was not the only source of the leaked memo.


 



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And don't you imagine there was some shock at how fast it ended up on this board!  No matter how much control people think they have, there is always the unforeseen.

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Gossip Monger

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Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH

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GM:
I wasn't saying that CB's post was entirely flawed because of this one misstatement.  Rather, I was pointing out that Hudson was not the only source of the leaked memo.
 
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Truth/AH,

Agreed, and I apologize for misinterpreting your words. My reading of your comment was this--The memo leaked to FS came from a recipient's relative, not Hudson. Ergo, you couldn't "go down that road," meaning Crystal's account of Hudson's role in the leak was false on its face. I was attempting to posit an alternative explanation, to wit, that the two accounts of the leak were not mutually exclusive. As I've said, I don't claim to vouch for any other assertion or interpretation offered by Crystal.

Yesterday a FS contributor likened the machinations at USM to a Tom Clancy novel. I'd go further, and suggest that even Clancy couldn't have conjured up such a multi-layered plot or smarmy cast of characters. English isn't my field, but as events unfold, the story line strikes me as more worthy of Faulkner than Clancy.

GM

BTW, I think we're acquainted. Were you associated with the Honors College in the mid-90's?

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truth4usm/AH

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" BTW, I think we're acquainted. Were you associated with the Honors College in the mid-90's?"

Yep, I used to be the Coordinator of General Honors (1995-2000)....Dean Ryan's right-hand woman.  Were you a student then?

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Qweeg

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Crystal Ball:  Your post has the ring of truth.  One correction, however, Hudson did not leak the Hanbury memo to FS.  I did.  I am not related to anyone who received the memo.  As we were reminded in the recent hearings debacle:  Emails are not private. 

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lddad

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folks, if you doubt the subterfuge and strangeness that goes on in hattiesburg--hudson's family was involved in a murder for hire in the early 80's that WDAM sniffed out.

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"
Yesterday a FS contributor likened the machinations at USM to a Tom Clancy novel. I'd go further, and suggest that even Clancy couldn't have conjured up such a multi-layered plot or smarmy cast of characters. English isn't my field, but as events unfold, the story line strikes me as more worthy of Faulkner than Clancy.
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I think it's more like something Stephen King might write. I just hope the gunslinger shows up before the low men win.

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Gossip Monger

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"Yep, I used to be the Coordinator of General Honors (1995-2000)....Dean Ryan's right-hand woman.  Were you a student then?"


Hi Andrea,

Nope, not a student, but shall we say, closely related to an Honors College student of that era. I had occasion to meet you and Dr. Ryan (and Dr. Richardson), and I solicited your advice and assistance on several occasions during 1995-97. You never failed to come through, and I hope I properly thanked you at the time. You really made that place tick.

Regards,
GM

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truth4usm/AH

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" Hi Andrea, Nope, not a student, but shall we say, closely related to an Honors College student of that era. I had occasion to meet you and Dr. Ryan (and Dr. Richardson), and I solicited your advice and assistance on several occasions during 1995-97. You never failed to come through, and I hope I properly thanked you at the time. You really made that place tick. Regards, GM"

Thanks for your kind words, and glad I was able to help you and yours!  I loved that job, and truly enjoyed working with the Honors students.  That's one of the reasons I'm so sad to see the Honors College "diminished" by Thames...it was a "crown jewel" for USM, and I hope it can be returned to its former glory under a new president.

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As an alumni I am interested in what happened to Honors, what can be done to get it back.  I understand the lecture series is out for next year.  This may be worth a different thread if some are interested.

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truth4usm/AH

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"As an alumni I am interested in what happened to Honors, what can be done to get it back.  I understand the lecture series is out for next year.  This may be worth a different thread if some are interested."

I know that when I was working there, we sent out an annual  newsletter to alumni letting them know what had happened the previous academic year.  Since I'm also an HC alum, I used to receive these when Dr. Ryan was still dean.  Haven't received anything like this since Dr. Panton has been dean.  Perhaps we might email him and/or Paula Mathis, Coordinator of General Honors, and find out what's going on.  You can email them at:  Honors@usm.edu

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TruthTeller

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Doty sucks. As anti-student as one can get.



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You got it right

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Originally posted by: TruthTeller
"Doty sucks. As anti-student as one can get.


 


To know him is to have no respect for his abilities or character.



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