I find it astonishing that A.E. Griffing can equate liberalism with such epithets as "unethical," "immoral" and "irresponsible" ("Professors to blame for liberalism?" May 9).
Further, if parents believe that their children are so easily corrupted by exposure to a liberal arts education, then the fault lies not with liberal arts professors who are doing their jobs, but with the parents who failed to teach their children to think critically and instill anything resembling moral character.
Students at the University of Southern Mississippi are adults who should be able to evaluate ideas of all sorts on the basis of the merit of those ideas. In fact, this is the science model to which Griffing alludes that forms the basis of almost everything at all major American universities, not just the so-called hard sciences, but to the social sciences like sociology and the humanities like history.
In this science model, ideas are carefully assessed against the evidence — never accepted on the basis of authority.
I suggest that Mr. Griffing get himself a good liberal arts education where he can learn to think critically and learn the meaning of liberalism.
Amy Young Associate Professor Dept. of Anthropology and Sociology University of Southern Mississippi Hattiesburg
Apparently, Amy Young thinks that it is her "job" to teach liberalism. How that fits with Anthropology is beyond me. At any rate, her comment that students should be "critical thinkers" and question all authority is a lame justification for imposing personal views upon students. Are 18-year olds really critical thinkers? All of us know that students are greatly influenced by their teachers. A teacher should elicit all views for open discussion and critical analysis, but should not use the classroom to impose his/her personal beliefs upon the students. Amy Young never denies doing this, but tries to justify it by claiming that teenagers should be able to see through her demogogary.
quote: Originally posted by: Old Timer "Apparently, Amy Young thinks that it is her "job" to teach liberalism. How that fits with Anthropology is beyond me. At any rate, her comment that students should be "critical thinkers" and question all authority is a lame justification for imposing personal views upon students. Are 18-year olds really critical thinkers? All of us know that students are greatly influenced by their teachers. A teacher should elicit all views for open discussion and critical analysis, but should not use the classroom to impose his/her personal beliefs upon the students. Amy Young never denies doing this, but tries to justify it by claiming that teenagers should be able to see through her demogogary."
Old Timer, I didn't realize that you were a card-carrying member of Eagle Talk! And you almost spelled "demagoguery" correctly!
The truth hurts, doesn't it Andrea? I know you are perfect, but I'll bet even you occasionally misspell or make a typo. That is... when you are working.
quote: Originally posted by: Old Timer "The truth hurts, doesn't it Andrea? I know you are perfect, but I'll bet even you occasionally misspell or make a typo. That is... when you are working."
The truth never hurts (when it's the real TRUTH!). Can't you take a bit of a jab from the Spelling Queen?
I'm working constantly...more than you'll ever know!
I think you misunderstood the point of Amy Young's article. It never does advocate "teaching liberalism." It simply says that when a person arrives at college, s/he should expect to be exposed to a wide range of ideas, including many ideas with which s/he or his/her parents may disagree. The purpose of college is not to affirm beliefs but to question them. I agree with you that professors should NOT impose their own beliefs on students, and that professors should be just as open to challenge and debate and disagreement as anyone (indeed, perhaps MORE than most other people). I don't see anything in Amy Young's letter that suggests otherwise.
I've always thought that anyone who challenges my beliefs does me a favor, one way or the other: he either encourages me to strengthen my arguments by finding further evidence to support them, or he helps me realize that I am mistaken and that my previous beliefs do not merit my allegiance. Either way, I benefit.
I'm always reminded of Milton's statement that he did not admire a "cloistered virtue" -- in other words, he did not admire a claim to virtue unless it had been tested in the real world. By the same token, I cannot respect an opinion unless it is willing to venture out into the marketplace of ideas and run the risk of being challenged. Parents who send their children to college merely to have their prior beliefs affirmed are doing a disservice to their children and are misunderstanding the purpose of higher education.
Do you remember the name, or approximate date, of the thread on which we discussed the benefits of a liberal arts education? I was trying to find it last night and could not locate it. Thanks!
I agree with your statement that everyone's ideas should be challenged and that we should indeed teach our children to do this. That is why I went to a liberal arts college and encouraged my children to do so, even though I classify myself as a conservative. Being conservative does not mean I cannot and should not think critically. Where we part company, I think, is the teachers' role in the process. When I went to college, the teacher elicited opinions from the students and fostered discussion and critical thinking. The teacher usually did not state his/her own opinion, much less on subjects not germane to the discussion. I think the teacher should be the facilitator of critical thinking, not the preacher.
quote: Originally posted by: Old Timer "USMS, I agree with your statement that everyone's ideas should be challenged and that we should indeed teach our children to do this. That is why I went to a liberal arts college and encouraged my children to do so, even though I classify myself as a conservative. Being conservative does not mean I cannot and should not think critically. Where we part company, I think, is the teachers' role in the process. When I went to college, the teacher elicited opinions from the students and fostered discussion and critical thinking. The teacher usually did not state his/her own opinion, much less on subjects not germane to the discussion. I think the teacher should be the facilitator of critical thinking, not the preacher."
Old Timer,
We agree completely on this. I don't see anything in Amy Young's letter, though, that implies otherwise; do you? Perhaps you know of actual practices at USM that contradict this ideal, and, if they exist, I would be troubled by them, too. However, I don't see anything in the letter that suggests that Amy Young would disagree with the position you have just stated.