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truth4usm/AH

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Letter to ed: Meet us halfway, SFT
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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040526/opinion/508659.html


Great letter from USM faculty member, Wilbur Moreland.



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Seeker's Risk Manager

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By far the best letter that any faculty member has penned on the subject.

I hope that all of you share the ideas the Moreland expressed in this letter, but sadly I don't suspect this is case.

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USM Sympathizer

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SRM,


Why do you doubt that most posters to this board would agree with this letter?  My only concern about the letter is that it may be a bit naive in assuming that SFT can be trusted.



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Music Patron

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What a great letter from one of the finest teachers on this campus and an excellent perfomer on the clarinet.   He also is a man holding the highest ethical and moral values.   Every faculty member I've spoken with shares Moreland's hopes.  They also share the very doubts he so eloquently expressed.

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foot soldier

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If you haven't already heard it, I suggest Moreland's speech at the faculty convocation in March too.

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Seeker's Risk Manager

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Why do I doubt that a goodly number on this board do not share the opine of hope the writer expresses? It is simple. This board is blinded by hatred. I witness it here on a regular basis.

This hatred has blinded a vast majority of individuals here to believe they are on some holy crusade. That the cause is just, and so is any means to it's end. This was the downfall of Gary Stringer. Stringer believed and still believes that the ends justified his means in the Dvorak hunt. Many of you no doubt feel the same way and in your heart of hearts believe he did nothing wrong. Stringer was justified to conduct the investigation, I won't argue there. But, he crossed the line when he used the SSN without premission. It dosen't matter what he used it for or whome he shared it with, it was unauthorized by the individual who owned the number.

Many individuals on this board care nothing of the means to oust Thames as long as the objective is met. These individuals are no more willing to work with Thames than they accuse him of being. I am not saying you have no right to feel this way, but understand that you are as much of the problem as Thames.

Share the Blame.....Clean House.

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truth4usm/AH

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Originally posted by: Seeker's Risk Manager

"  Share the Blame.....Clean House."


Does that mean you share the blame, too?   Take your own advice and CLEAN yourself on outta here! 



(Couldn't find a "cleaning" icon, so you'll have to "flush" yourself outta here!).



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Ditto Boy

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As I've said before on this board, the tenor of discourse on the campus is set by the leaders. From these guys, we get nothing but contempt and hate.

By the way, check the evidence pack and refer to Rob McDuff's opening. There was nothing wrong with the way the SS# was used. Perhaps we all should be asking questions about why Lisa Mader released it to WDAM.

Moreland's letter was terrific. Part of meeting us halfway is to start supporting the work of the faculty--all the faculty, not just the polymer scientists--and to show a real commitment to shared governance. I'm ready, but like Moreland (or maybe unlike him), I'm not optimistic.

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Machiavelli

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Moreland is right on target.  If BOTH sides would embrace the "Meet Halfway" concept, great accomplishments could be made.  I urge the PUC to adopt a formal, comprehensive "Meet Halfway" program that would involve major and substantive concessions from both sides.  How could either side reject such a plan?

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Originally posted by: Machiavelli
"Moreland is right on target.  If BOTH sides would embrace the "Meet Halfway" concept, great accomplishments could be made.  I urge the PUC to adopt a formal, comprehensive "Meet Halfway" program that would involve major and substantive concessions from both sides.  How could either side reject such a plan? "


Mach,


Can you please be more specific?  Can you list (for instance) five major concessions you'd like SFT's critics to make?  From where I sit, most of the problems that have taken place at USM are the direct result of SFT's actions; the faculty has only been responding, as best they can, to his radical agenda.  Are you suggesting that there is a moral equivalence between SFT and his critics?  I'm afraid I don't see it that way.  In any case, please list five SPECIFIC concessions SFT's critics should make.


 



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I'd like to see a list of things that SFT's critics can concede, too.

How can a group that has been marginalized & progressively stripped of input concede much? There simply isn't a lot that SFT's critics can concede.

I believe that conceding two years of continued bungling by the administration is unacceptable. I have already taken action on this by discontinuing my financial support for USM. I will not resume even "half" of my previous level of support until such time as I, not SFT, not the faculty & not the IHL board, perceive that the long-term vision is that of a university & not just a publicly-funded "research group" with an athletic department.



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