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truth4usm/AH

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HA article: Fire Shelby to shut down
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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040527/localnews/516576.html


I didn't think that the entire site would be shutting down...just the message board.  Is this true, FS?



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Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH
"http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040527/localnews/516576.html I didn't think that the entire site would be shutting down...just the message board.  Is this true, FS?"

My understanding was that the entire site would shut down, but I hope I am wrong.  It would be nice if someone with computer expertise, and ideally who resides in Hattiesburg, would take up Zorro's challenge to maintain the site.  The AAUP site is great, but SFT can always claim (falsely) that the AAUP site speaks only for a small segment of the faculty, whereas the FS site had an aura of being a meeting place for practically everyone.  I'm sure the AAUP site will eventually develop that same aura, but its offical connection with a faculty group gives SFT a PR advantage he didn't have with the FS site.  Thus, if it is somehow possible to maintain the FS site, it would be great to do so. 



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WM

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Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer
" My understanding was that the entire site would shut down, but I hope I am wrong.  It would be nice if someone with computer expertise, and ideally who resides in Hattiesburg, would take up Zorro's challenge to maintain the site.  The AAUP site is great, but SFT can always claim (falsely) that the AAUP site speaks only for a small segment of the faculty, whereas the FS site had an aura of being a meeting place for practically everyone.  I'm sure the AAUP site will eventually develop that same aura, but its offical connection with a faculty group gives SFT a PR advantage he didn't have with the FS site.  Thus, if it is somehow possible to maintain the FS site, it would be great to do so. "


It's easy to keep the message board portion of the FS site going just as it is.  All someone needs to do is contact FS and arrange for the orderly handover of passwords for moderation, etc. Then the new person would do the occasional moderating that needs doing here.


There is VERY LITTLE attention required for the message board part of the site and, if i am not mistake, it is free from Activeboard and hosted on their site (in return for the ads).


http://www.activeboard.com/



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Fire Shelby


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Originally posted by: WM
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Moderating the message board took very little time in the beginning, but once it became very active, it took more time than most people realize.


I appreciate your suggestion about handing over the passwords and account to someone else; however, after giving much thought and taking the advice of people I trust, I feel the best option I have is to shut down the board. 


Thanks,


FS


 



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foot soldier

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Fire Shelby,

One of my more paranoid friends asked me if I thought perhaps you were shutting down the board because you had been threatened in some way. I told him I didn't think so, but it would be nice to hear it from you, to put any rumors like that to rest. We all wish the best for your health and happiness in your nonFireShelby activities.

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truth4usm/AH

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Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer
" My understanding was that the entire site would shut down, but I hope I am wrong.  It would be nice if someone with computer expertise, and ideally who resides in Hattiesburg, would take up Zorro's challenge to maintain the site.  The AAUP site is great, but SFT can always claim (falsely) that the AAUP site speaks only for a small segment of the faculty, whereas the FS site had an aura of being a meeting place for practically everyone.  I'm sure the AAUP site will eventually develop that same aura, but its offical connection with a faculty group gives SFT a PR advantage he didn't have with the FS site.  Thus, if it is somehow possible to maintain the FS site, it would be great to do so. "

As it's a moot point now, I can reveal that I was interested in taking on the "mask of Zorro" and keeping the message board portion of Fire Shelby alive.  I feel awful that it's closing down (for many reasons), and since plenty of people already think I am Fire Shelby anyway (I'm really not!), I was willing to do it.  But, I understand that this is Fire Shelby's baby, and it is FS's perogative whether to close it or not.  I respect that position.


On the other hand, if people think that there would be interest in another message board (FS II??) apart from the AAUP-USM message board, I'd be willing to entertain the notion of creating it/moderating it.  The problem with the AAUP-USM message board (as I understand it) will be that there won't be a day-to-day troll-zapper person on there like FS has been here.  I think that's a vital function of the moderator (and probably what FS is tired of doing!). 


So, let me know, devoted followers of Fire Shelby.  Would you be willing to "move" to another message board to continue to community/discussions?  Let me know...I'll be waiting to hear from you. 



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Let Freedom Ring

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Originally posted by: foot soldier
"Fire Shelby, One of my more paranoid friends asked me if I thought perhaps you were shutting down the board because you had been threatened in some way. I told him I didn't think so, but it would be nice to hear it from you, to put any rumors like that to rest. We all wish the best for your health and happiness in your nonFireShelby activities."

You're not the only paranoid one ~ I've suspected that FS was threatened in some way too..... perhaps someone found out who s/he is .....


NO Quarter!
Let Freedom Ring



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fhaiman

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i'm afraid your comments toward the end of your post indicate your real concerns about the aaup discussion board--it won't have a "troll zapper."  golly, it won't be possible to stifle free speech, even when it disagrees with your point of view.  lots of people (particularly you ah) felt free to stifle free speech when it disagreed with your point of view.  i think amy young laid out a defensible position, but you are uncomfortable with the inability to stifle (or stigmatize) points of view that do not coincide with yours or what "you" believe to be the purpose of the board.  what we need is more free speech not less!!!!

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Greedy

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Farewell board.

When the AAUP kool aid drinkers take the board over, the war and moral high ground will have been lost.

It is not because AAUP is wrong or bad. It is because of overwhelming public perception that can never ever be twarted.

I beg of the board, please let an independent entity take over the board. Please.

Or just shut it down.

Peace.

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truth4usm/AH

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Originally posted by: fhaiman
"i'm afraid your comments toward the end of your post indicate your real concerns about the aaup discussion board--it won't have a "troll zapper."  golly, it won't be possible to stifle free speech, even when it disagrees with your point of view.  lots of people (particularly you ah) felt free to stifle free speech when it disagreed with your point of view.  i think amy young laid out a defensible position, but you are uncomfortable with the inability to stifle (or stigmatize) points of view that do not coincide with yours or what "you" believe to be the purpose of the board.  what we need is more free speech not less!!!!"

Free speech does not cover yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater.  It also does not cover messages on a moderated message board that viciously attack other board members personally (which happened to me more than a few times here).  Get your facts straight before you come here anonymously blasting me for my position.  Free speech is reeeeeaaaal easy when you're hiding, now, isn't it? 



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Fire Shelby


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 But, I understand that this is Fire Shelby's baby, and it is FS's perogative whether to close it or not.   "

 


My reasons for closing the message board include that the account is in my name...even if I transfer moderator responsibilities, the board would remain in my name. 


The decision NOT to transfer moderator responsibilities has nothing to do with the board being my baby, except for ownership responsibilities would still fall to me, and I have enough on my plate without having to worry about potential problems cropping up because of this.


As I have said several times, I hope everyone understands, and I appreciate those who do.


The board is supposed to be archived in Cook Library, though, so it is not completely lost.


FS



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