Fire Shelby Thames

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Lifted from Present Prof's post in another thread: THIS IS SOMETHING THE SGA SHOULD BE BOMBARDED WITH. The SGA should also be forced to issue a statement of condemnation about the email monitoring. Isn't this the kind of meat and potatoes issue they are supposed to be here for? Aren't they suppos...

webster

betrayal and sellout < how some anti-Thames fighters view the Glamser-Stringer settlement. Brian, Brad < 1. Vice President of Coca-Cola’s Mississippi Division and former President of the ADP; 2. pro-Thames member of Hattiesburg business community who attended (and spoke to media) at...

wary undergrad

Just thought that readers of this board might want to know what the current Student Handbook 2003-2004 says about students' rights to privacy... p. 77 "The university [USM] will not police students' private lives ON or OFF campus nor violate their PRIVACY rights in any way." Now, is it just me...

webster

Who started "no quarter"? I want to attribute for a guest entry. BTW, webster is going buck-wild with entries today (webster's a little ****ed today).

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

I will post it this evening--it will surely be the symbol for Phase II of this movement. Does anyone who regularly posts here have some bandwidth they could spare by hosting the image for others to link to? If you are 1) a regular poster and 2) can do the favor requested above, please email me asap at f...

Fire Shelby · Miles Long

This came from the troll "what if Shelby is right". At least, I hope it was a troll...the thought that some people might think Shelby has a clue is too horrible to even contemplate. The troll stated that ST would be at USM when Glasmer and Stringer were long gone. I stated that his contract, AFAI...

webster

Cheramie, Michael < 1. systems analyst at Hattiesburg-based Grayco Systems and Consulting, Inc.; 2. says that USM’s e-mail perverts were just doing their duty/jobs. eagletalk.net < message board for Golden Eagles athletics supporters, hosted by Rivals.com, that is inhabited mainly...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

United we stand. SHELBY THAMES HAS GOT TO GO!!!

webster

Gnome Clone < supporters of Shelby Thames who mimic his and Lisa Mader’s public relations spin. [guest Glossary entry by Fire Shelby] May 6, 2004 < National Day of Prayer.

media

PLEASE STOP WITH ALL THIS TALK THAT A UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE A BUSINESS. Has no one taken basic civics? First: Like most every other country on earth, the United States has more than one institution. Let me remind you of three: private enterprise, the military, and the university. Private enterpr...

Perspective

The debate rages over who "won." I think feelings will change per person, even, day by day. Probably, none won outright,but Anderson was sent to do this very settlement, give both something so that no one lost and no one won. BUT.............Thames lost on his bid to terminate. No matter t...

elliott

As a father, I think Rachel Quinlivan's parents need to come out now and bombard the media with interviews. TV, radio, print, Internet, etc. As parents, we don't send our non-legal age daughters off to a university, where its president and his risk manager sit around and read the...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

We have done something that seldom has happened throughout history: we have united people of diverse backgrounds into a formidible front. Let's continue to use the strength of our numbers for our main objective. Let us not lose sight of our goal to see Thames removed. Let us not allow bickering ove...

webster

AG status < 1. legal status given to a university attorney by the Attorney General of Mississippi, effectively placing a university attorney within the administrative structure of the Attorney General’s office, and not within the university itself; 2. long-standing status held by Lee Gore a...

babbs

Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...

elliott

In Derek Bok's book, he talks alot about what students learn while they're at college. As he says numerous times, they often learn as many lessons from observing the way the university's administration behaves as they do from their textbooks. How can a university ask a student not to se...

manus fortuna

A few more options for email communication. (1) Sign-up for an outside, web-based free service. Encourage your colleagues to do the same. There are many available – Yahoo e-mail, Hotmail and perhaps the best option (in terms of storage space) is Google’s upcoming G-Mail email service. If you l...

Angeline

I just posted this on the Protect Your Email Thread, but I thought it deserved a topic of its own. I have posted many "rumors" before as I received second-hand information, and in some ways this is no better, but I am now hearing this from a variety of sources, many of them connected directly with iTech...

Otherside

Why is the SPIN of the media that they will NOT teach?? The Clarion Ledger states "The state College Board has approved a deal in which two University of Southern Mississippi professors targeted for firing will stay on campus for two years in non-teaching roles." However, the agreement doe...

ree

what does it mean that hanbury will no be allowed to represent USM in legal matters? please tell me it is just more rope for the administration to hang themselves.

Flawless

This sounds ridiculous, but as I was meditating on the unhappy settlement and the fact that it enjoins G/S against suing Shelby or university, I wondered if some other faculty-based body could sue Shelby and the university, the faculty senate, the advisory council, somebody. The idea would be si...

Otherside

Can someone post the actual official full agreement. The Hattiesburg American website had it as "Breaking News" last night, but it isn't online or in their hard copy this morning. I failed to copy it because I assumed it would be available in today's paper. I also checked Clarion Ledger and Sun Herald...

RealityCheck

From Flawless "...........though Newton, our staunchest supported, is quoted on TV news as saying she "doesn't know how the College Board can help solve the problem, but hopes Dr. Thames will be involved in the healing process." This from the same board member who has heretofore been (politel...

babbs

Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...

Faze2

From UTPA Website - www.utpa.edu Open Forum for Presidential Finalists! You’re invited to hear from presidential finalist, Dr. Tim Hudson at an Open Forum this Friday, April 30, 2004 at 2:15 at the Student Union Theatre. The forum is open to faculty, staff members, students, alumni and communit...

Shelby's Right

Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....

elliott

Clint: I really find it puzzling that you wrote your letter criticizing USM faculty, and if posters are correct, you penned it in early March of this year. What's interesting about that is that Thames, through his remote control android Ken Malone, acquired two trolleys from the City of Hat...

Query

Kudos Rachel Q. On this board. Thank you. She is a USM student abused and raked through the mud by the man you stand behind. Does Bud Holmes own Chesterfield's now?

Miles Long

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broker

Heard today (good source) that a "higher up" at USM contacted D.C. earlier this week to inform the feds about some (federally) illegal activity SFT was engaged in as prez of USM. This source has an accuracy rating of 100% so far in this matter. Apparently, an investigation is in the offin...

Newgirl

CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS FRANK AND GARY. WELL DONE. NEWGIRL

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Disbanding Senate suggested in meeting By Janet Braswell American Senior Writer jbraswell@hattiesb.gannett.com Pood Top administrators at the University of Southern Mississippi don't plan to do away with the Faculty Senate and haven't seriously talk...

Dennis Flynn

April 30, 2004 An open letter to the Board of Trustees, Mississippi Institutions of Higher Learning: Now that due process has made clear and has remedied the injustice committed against Professors Glamser and Stringer, it is up to the members of the Mississippi College Boar...

elliott

the barrage of letters from Farris, Hewes, Taylor, Shearer, Holmes, Howell, etc. It's going to be disgusting.

elliott

I know many of you are excited that the Hattiesburg American seems behind the profs, as they should be, especially given SFT's treatment of Thames. Just remember that the HA acts like a finger-in-the-wind follower. I fully expect an editorial in the next couple of days talking about ho...

elliott

Doesn't Hanbury's new AG status mean that his employment is no longer subject to the whims of either Shelby or the IHL Board? I think so, which means he go a sort of promotion today.

Robert Campbell

I've tried to give the settlement a balanced treatment. Frankly, I found that difficult... I hope my efforts are of some utility. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/4936.html Robert Campbell

Anonymous

From Myron Henry, Faculty Senate President to 4+3: Good Evening Ms. Lisa Mader: Increasing numbers of faculty are expressing their concern to me as Faculty Senate president that the room where the hearing for Drs. Glamser and Stringer is scheduled to take place will not accommodate very m...

Missi

I find it very interesting that all of a sudden there are a couple articles in the HA that are somewhat anti-USM administration. (The Dvorak publication article and the Faculty Senate article) Are they mad that the "FACTS" they waited for, salivated for, did not exist? Any thoughts?

Lanny Mixon

I am posing this as a legitimate question. I hope to at least some legitimate answers. I also realize that I will probably get as much venom and hatred spewed at me as well...but maybe not. I admit I am a supporter of Dr Thames. I am not a blind supporter that believes that he dose no wrong. He has made...

USM Alum

WDAM-TV April 29, 2004 No Win for USM

HappyFunBall

Poison on campus! Folks: the next week starts soon, and we have no real changes, except !... There is a vile, grey, underlying fog of distrust (and, in many cases, hatred) that hangs over the campus like a shroud. It is Poison. Even people who are new to USM, even recent visitors,...

Conservative Voice

Well today sent a clear message, the University is being turned over completely to the faculty. You guys won, you got what you wanted. We will have a University that will completely be dominated by a faculty who will have zero accountability to anyone, about anything. You guys will now be all...

Dunno

I was around the LAB this afternoon when all the news came out. I read the news on the Internet and thought it was basically good. But a lot of the faculty I was around hated the agreement. These faculty used to be 100% behind the professors, and now they think that G&S have betray...

BouncingBob

College board meets tomorrow. Rumors are going around like wildfire. Latest I hear is that one or both profs will take retirement now in a sweetheart deal. Shelby stays firmly in place and in command. All of us who had hoped Shelby would go down will be disappointed. I can't be sure this...

lddad

did you just hear on WDAM that Hanbury got attorney general (AG) status? he can now represent the university in legal matters. holy s**t!

Chris

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/6000.html

Distant Supporter of USM

Posted April 30, 2004 1:59 PM. USM settlement released Details of the settlement between the University of Southern Mississippi and professors Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser include: - The university will recommend Angie Dvorak, vice president of research and economic development, will not p...

Miles Long

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040430/NEWS01/40430013USM ends termination proceedings against professors under agreement The Associated Press The state College Board has approved a deal in which two University of Southern Mississippi...

alum

I heard a rumour that the agreement has Glamser & Stringer agreeing to retire and getting two years salary. If this is correct they should be ashamed of themselves If this is true, Stinger's statement that integrity still means something at USM should be appended to say - but not a much as...

Chris

Stringer Glamser Full text

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

I've got mah troll zapper out and I'm about to start usin' it. FS

former-staffer

There is still the little matter of Dr. A. Dvorak and her vita, J. Hanbury/Hanberry and his bogus job, and Mark Dvorak as head of Human Resources. Not to mention Moore, Malone, et. al. None of these issues are resolved.

former-staffer

On May 14, Dr. Thames has to stand at the podium and look directly into the faces of a mass of faculty. Two different times. No matter what happens, that is going to be a miserble experience for him. I cannot imagine what his talk is going to be about.

Angeline

Posted April 30, 2004 1:59 PM. USM settlement released Details of the settlement between the University of Southern Mississippi and professors Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser include: - The university will recommend Angie Dvorak, vice president of research and economic deve...

Newgirl

Hattiesburg American Posted April 30, 2004 1:34 PM. College Board meeting behind closed doors The College Board began meeting shortly after 1 p.m. today and immediately voted to go into executive session to discuss “potential litigation and personnel issues.” The board is meeti...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

The stated scope of the hearing was the consideration of Shelby terminating Glamser and Stringer. The purpose was to resove Thames firing the two profs. The judge was not charged with evaluating Shelby Thames' job performance (although I would love to hear what he thinks about...

in the know

I heard many faculty and students CC'd all their e-mail messages to Shelby yesterday. Pretty funny!

foot soldier

Is anybody going to Jackson to the IHL meeting? I just don't want to make things look bad by being the only one there. Of course, that may mean I get my say on TV!

concerned

I believe I read in a post that Lisa was taking the day off today. Doesn't that seem odd, given the fact that a signifigant decision is due to be released today?

Newgirl

I heard reports that a paper shredding company truck was parked outside the Dome this morning. Newgirl

Flash Gordon

Would someone with a literature background like to talk about the relevance of the "Caine Mutiny" to all of this?

webster

If change is good then change it back < chant used by nursing students at a dome rally expressing discontent with the elimination of the College of Nursing through the university restructuring plan that was announced in 2003. 1-2-3, we don’t want a Health degree < chant used by nursing stude...

sad

None of us know the details of the settlement, but we do know one thing. The evidence presented at the hearing showed clearly that G and S did nothing illegal or unethical. They were good University citizens. What it did show is the repressive nature of the Thames administration....

USM Sympathizer

quote: Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer " Old Timer, just out of curiosity: can you list some specific reasons why you think SFT is a great president of USM? I sincerely am interested in hearing them. From what I can see, he has destroyed the reputation of a university that...

flyonthewall

This may be a repost but the news said this morning that there will be a special meeting today to discuss Thame's recommendation

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

"Northrup Grummond registration a success" (really? registering 23 students, many of whom will take one class for free, is a "success?") "Southern Miss in running to host US governors" (in 2006) I am posting these here because I want to keep the LBN page on the website free for links to new...

friend

I was browsing around and saw Matt Hinton's article in the 4/29/04 Student Printz that says the media at the hearing was "strictly local." How accurate is his perception? Assuming it is accurate, why is the popular media not jumping on this story? Even though they love to play t...

wary undergrad

Not sure,

, but I believe WDAM might be a little pi$$ed off at the Thames administration. Did anyone else see it?

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

REQUEST FOR DONATIONS TO THE LEGAL DEFENSE FUND: ANNOUNCEMENT OF GLAMSER/STRINGER AAUP SCHOLARSHIP Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer are very grateful for the many generous contributions to their legal defense fund. Whether you have contributed $5 or $500, every...

Seahawk

I have looked over the emotional and sometimes hysterical comments regarding the outcome of the Nazi vs Glamser and Stringer case. Let's just examine the plain and simple facts. These men (G&S) had nothing to lose. They can retire comfortably and their academic accomplis...

Shelby's Right

Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....

MBAgal

All morning I'd been hearing that Angie Dvorak stormed out of the dome saying she was going on "leave of absence" for an indefinite period of time. Just a minute ago I heard that the story was true, but that it was Lisa Mader. I'm pretty sure by tonight we might hear that it is true for one of th...

MBAgal

We all know the kinds of beliefs that many of Shelby's supporters (e.g., Billy Hewes, etc.) hold about certain segments of society. We all know that Reuben Anderson is an African American. We all believe SFT clearly lost yesterday. Question: how many times do you think the "n" word wa...

la chica

"Shelby's Right," I see you keep posting the same email on this website over and over again. So what if Shelby is wrong? What are all his followers going to do? What is SGA going to do? What are YOU going to do? La chica

hungry

First, I apologize for going way off topic and FS can delete this post if she wants. Where can I get some really good grilled fish under $9 other than the Cresent City Grill (for obvious reasons).

Shelby's Right

Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....

lddad

wdam just reported the board will meet tomorrow to act on the recommendations.

tomcat

Just got off the phone with my mom. Gave her a 5 minute history of USM's crises. In reference to Thames, she told me to tell everyone on the board don't worry, "he'll get 'his'. . ." Way to go mom! You rock!!!

educator

Anyone else notice that bit from the HA that talked about where the key players' family members sat?? Some on the front, others on the third

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

I want to thank EVERYONE for the contributions you have made to this website and message board. I give full credit to all of you. You are Fire Shelby. We don't know what will emerge from the IHL meeting. In my excitement, I may have been too eager to interpret yesterday as a complet...

babbs

Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...

Fire Shelby · They've all got to go

I hope that the emergency board meeting tomorrow does not mean that the Provost will slide into the President's spot...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Did the board "hiccup" for anyone else awhile ago--about 20 minutes ago? I am thinking about setting up an alternate board, just in case this board ever crashes. Thanks, FS

Fire Shelby · Robert Campbell

I've posted an item on yesterday's hearing at Liberty and Power http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/4908.html Even after following the events closely on the Message Board yesterday, I found the hearing hard to write about in a concise fashion. I plan to write about the consequences of the...

Outside OBSERVER

Shouldnt the IHL be questioned about their original decision to appoint the lawyer who ended up representing Thames to "ensure fairness" in the hearing? Seems to me at best this was a very poor decision bringing into question the board's competence, and at worst it was an attempt to influen...

Fire Shelby · Outiside Observer

Have their been any gnome sightings today? Is he in his office? Is the door closed? Is he "vacationing in Texas again?"

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

I just checked my bulk mail inbox. In it were emails with viruses attached from Eagle Talk, the IHL, the National Association of Foreign Studies, and the Printz. I know that the Printz did not maliciously try to infect me. But perhaps someome has sent them an email worm and it is b...

former-staffer

Y'all feel free to shoot this down -- but when is commencement? What would happen if a bunch of outsiders, like me, who are entitled to wear academic regalia, showed up wearing such? I own my own hood and cap, it would involve renting a gown. Could we get enough gowns in time? W...

USM Sympathizer

. Adrienne R. Studaway I have a 1 million dollar life insurance policy that names the University of Southern Mississippi as one of the three beneficiaries. Thames is leading me to rethink that choice...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Was a reporter present at the hearing?

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Offmychest, I hope that you don't mind that I took the liberty to start a new thread with your post, but everyone does need to read this. Please let me know if you mind. By Offmychest 4/29/04: Up to now, I've been a silent (but very interested) observer on this board. But I have to...

Fire Shelby · wary undergrad

After reading the article in the HA by Nikki Davis Maute, it is very apparent to me that Klumb intends to "sit" on the settlement issue until the May 20th meeting. If I am not mistaken, I believe that Justice Anderson requested that the settlement be addressed ASAP so that the "healing at the univ...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

a guy who "won" to you? This photo was taken, I believe, after the hearing reconvened and Anderson announced a settlement. Perhaps the Printz photog can tell us if it was taken before the annoucement, but I believe it's from after. Not a happy camper if you ask me!

Outside Observer

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educator

From HA: Klumb, who was quoted in the same March 11 Hattiesburg American story as having spoken with Thames, reiterated his prior knowledge of the changes. "He informed us that he was fixing to make a personnel change that he felt was in the best interest of the university," Klumb said, "and he sai...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

Public awaits answers to key questions EDITORIALS Questions. Lots of questions. That's what the public is left with following the surprising conclusion Wednesday to the termination hearings for two University of Southern Mississippi professors. Ever since March 5, when USM Pr...

Outside Observer

I thought someone said they had sanitized all the web sites. Before initiating her work in Mississippi, Dvorak served as president and CEO of Ashland Community College in Ashland, Kentucky. She concurrently held a tenured academic appointment as an associate professor at the Univers...

Fire Shelby · truth4usm

Does anyone know anything about a chat forum called Eagle Talk? Apparently, it's some forum filled with pro-Shelboos who were celebrating Thames' awesome presentation yesterday, and saying that he won the case, etc. I imagine there aren't more than 32 members participating (at lea...

Fire Shelby · Fire Shelby

The agreement could not have been reached without IHL approval for Anderson to stop the hearing and begin mediation. Anderson must have received word from IHL to end the embarrassing hearing (and folks, if you could have been there--it was very EMBARRASSING for Thames and any of his supporte...

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Students: Pressure the SGA to issue a statement... (Preview) Lifted from Present Prof's post in another thread: THIS IS SOMETHING THE SGA SHOULD BE BOMBARDED WITH. The SGA should also be forced to issue a statement of condemnation about the email monitoring. Isn't this the kind of meat and potatoes issue they are supposed to be here for? Aren't they suppos...	Fire Shelby	0	273	May 1, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	new Glossary entries: A-Z (Preview) betrayal and sellout < how some anti-Thames fighters view the Glamser-Stringer settlement. Brian, Brad < 1. Vice President of Coca-Cola’s Mississippi Division and former President of the ADP; 2. pro-Thames member of Hattiesburg business community who attended (and spoke to media) at...	webster	1	294	May 1, 2004 by educator
	Students rights to privacy (Preview) Just thought that readers of this board might want to know what the current Student Handbook 2003-2004 says about students' rights to privacy... p. 77 "The university [USM] will not police students' private lives ON or OFF campus nor violate their PRIVACY rights in any way." Now, is it just me...	wary undergrad	5	431	May 1, 2004 by wary undergrad
	please answer question (Preview) Who started "no quarter"? I want to attribute for a guest entry. BTW, webster is going buck-wild with entries today (webster's a little ****ed today).	webster	8	561	May 1, 2004 by Athena
	Just received an image in email... (Preview) I will post it this evening--it will surely be the symbol for Phase II of this movement. Does anyone who regularly posts here have some bandwidth they could spare by hosting the image for others to link to? If you are 1) a regular poster and 2) can do the favor requested above, please email me asap at f...	Fire Shelby	5	549	May 1, 2004 by Otherside
	The only chance for healing (Preview) This came from the troll "what if Shelby is right". At least, I hope it was a troll...the thought that some people might think Shelby has a clue is too horrible to even contemplate. The troll stated that ST would be at USM when Glasmer and Stringer were long gone. I stated that his contract, AFAI...	Miles Long	1	386	May 1, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	new Glossary entries: A-Z (Preview) Cheramie, Michael < 1. systems analyst at Hattiesburg-based Grayco Systems and Consulting, Inc.; 2. says that USM’s e-mail perverts were just doing their duty/jobs. eagletalk.net < message board for Golden Eagles athletics supporters, hosted by Rivals.com, that is inhabited mainly...	webster	0	286	May 1, 2004 by webster
	No more bickering about the settlement... (Preview) United we stand. SHELBY THAMES HAS GOT TO GO!!!	Fire Shelby	1	382	May 1, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	new Glossary entries: G and M (Preview) Gnome Clone < supporters of Shelby Thames who mimic his and Lisa Mader’s public relations spin. [guest Glossary entry by Fire Shelby] May 6, 2004 < National Day of Prayer.	webster	0	287	May 1, 2004 by webster
	Liberals, Conservatives, All, Please Read (Preview) PLEASE STOP WITH ALL THIS TALK THAT A UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE A BUSINESS. Has no one taken basic civics? First: Like most every other country on earth, the United States has more than one institution. Let me remind you of three: private enterprise, the military, and the university. Private enterpr...	media	11	590	May 1, 2004 by lddad
	let's take a look at implications (Preview) The debate rages over who "won." I think feelings will change per person, even, day by day. Probably, none won outright,but Anderson was sent to do this very settlement, give both something so that no one lost and no one won. BUT.............Thames lost on his bid to terminate. No matter t...	Perspective	0	315	May 1, 2004 by Perspective
	Rachel's parents..... (Preview) As a father, I think Rachel Quinlivan's parents need to come out now and bombard the media with interviews. TV, radio, print, Internet, etc. As parents, we don't send our non-legal age daughters off to a university, where its president and his risk manager sit around and read the...	elliott	10	635	May 1, 2004 by lddad
	Let's not be divided... (Preview) We have done something that seldom has happened throughout history: we have united people of diverse backgrounds into a formidible front. Let's continue to use the strength of our numbers for our main objective. Let us not lose sight of our goal to see Thames removed. Let us not allow bickering ove...	Fire Shelby	9	686	May 1, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	new Glossary entries: A-Z (Preview) AG status < 1. legal status given to a university attorney by the Attorney General of Mississippi, effectively placing a university attorney within the administrative structure of the Attorney General’s office, and not within the university itself; 2. long-standing status held by Lee Gore a...	webster	1	343	May 1, 2004 by webster
	USM departures 5/1/04 (Preview) Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...	babbs	0	331	May 1, 2004 by babbs
	Bok's lessons (Preview) In Derek Bok's book, he talks alot about what students learn while they're at college. As he says numerous times, they often learn as many lessons from observing the way the university's administration behaves as they do from their textbooks. How can a university ask a student not to se...	elliott	3	429	May 1, 2004 by tomcat
	Protect Your E-mail - more options (Preview) A few more options for email communication. (1) Sign-up for an outside, web-based free service. Encourage your colleagues to do the same. There are many available – Yahoo e-mail, Hotmail and perhaps the best option (in terms of storage space) is Google’s upcoming G-Mail email service. If you l...	manus fortuna	0	350	May 1, 2004 by manus fortuna
	Pileum Must be Outed! (Preview) I just posted this on the Protect Your Email Thread, but I thought it deserved a topic of its own. I have posted many "rumors" before as I received second-hand information, and in some ways this is no better, but I am now hearing this from a variety of sources, many of them connected directly with iTech...	Angeline	3	520	May 1, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	No Teaching??? (Preview) Why is the SPIN of the media that they will NOT teach?? The Clarion Ledger states "The state College Board has approved a deal in which two University of Southern Mississippi professors targeted for firing will stay on campus for two years in non-teaching roles." However, the agreement doe...	Otherside	22	1003	May 1, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	Hanbury (Preview) what does it mean that hanbury will no be allowed to represent USM in legal matters? please tell me it is just more rope for the administration to hang themselves.	ree	0	364	May 1, 2004 by ree
	Can FacSen sue Shelby? (Preview) This sounds ridiculous, but as I was meditating on the unhappy settlement and the fact that it enjoins G/S against suing Shelby or university, I wondered if some other faculty-based body could sue Shelby and the university, the faculty senate, the advisory council, somebody. The idea would be si...	Flawless	1	417	May 1, 2004 by cockeyedoptimist
	Settlement Agreement (Preview) Can someone post the actual official full agreement. The Hattiesburg American website had it as "Breaking News" last night, but it isn't online or in their hard copy this morning. I failed to copy it because I assumed it would be available in today's paper. I also checked Clarion Ledger and Sun Herald...	Otherside	0	311	May 1, 2004 by Otherside
	We have lost more than ground........ (Preview) From Flawless "...........though Newton, our staunchest supported, is quoted on TV news as saying she "doesn't know how the College Board can help solve the problem, but hopes Dr. Thames will be involved in the healing process." This from the same board member who has heretofore been (politel...	RealityCheck	4	582	May 1, 2004 by BogusBoy
	USM departures 4/30/04 (Preview) Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...	babbs	7	539	May 1, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	Hudson Job Search - from UTPA website (Preview) From UTPA Website - www.utpa.edu Open Forum for Presidential Finalists! You’re invited to hear from presidential finalist, Dr. Tim Hudson at an Open Forum this Friday, April 30, 2004 at 2:15 at the Student Union Theatre. The forum is open to faculty, staff members, students, alumni and communit...	Faze2	1	450	May 1, 2004 by truth4usm
	What if Shelby is right? (Preview) Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....	Shelby's Right	47	1580	Apr 30, 2004 by truth4usm
	message for Clint Taylor!! (Preview) Clint: I really find it puzzling that you wrote your letter criticizing USM faculty, and if posters are correct, you penned it in early March of this year. What's interesting about that is that Thames, through his remote control android Ken Malone, acquired two trolleys from the City of Hat...	elliott	2	542	Apr 30, 2004 by Bumper
	Robert St. John Please Read NOW (Preview) Kudos Rachel Q. On this board. Thank you. She is a USM student abused and raked through the mud by the man you stand behind. Does Bud Holmes own Chesterfield's now?	Query	3	576	Apr 30, 2004 by Bumper
	Angie ain't tenurable (Preview) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------	Miles Long	9	701	Apr 30, 2004 by present professor
	more trouble for SFT (Preview) Heard today (good source) that a "higher up" at USM contacted D.C. earlier this week to inform the feds about some (federally) illegal activity SFT was engaged in as prez of USM. This source has an accuracy rating of 100% so far in this matter. Apparently, an investigation is in the offin...	broker	4	711	Apr 30, 2004 by Flawless
	Congratulations (Preview) CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS FRANK AND GARY. WELL DONE. NEWGIRL	Newgirl	6	621	Apr 30, 2004 by Hellgirl
	Hat Am reporting on Thames' desire to kill FacSen (Preview) Disbanding Senate suggested in meeting By Janet Braswell American Senior Writer jbraswell@hattiesb.gannett.com Pood Top administrators at the University of Southern Mississippi don't plan to do away with the Faculty Senate and haven't seriously talk...	Fire Shelby	4	548	Apr 30, 2004 by Hellgirl
	An open letter to the Board of Trustees, Mississip (Preview) April 30, 2004 An open letter to the Board of Trustees, Mississippi Institutions of Higher Learning: Now that due process has made clear and has remedied the injustice committed against Professors Glamser and Stringer, it is up to the members of the Mississippi College Boar...	Dennis Flynn	4	513	Apr 30, 2004 by friend
	oh yeah, and get ready for.... (Preview) the barrage of letters from Farris, Hewes, Taylor, Shearer, Holmes, Howell, etc. It's going to be disgusting.	elliott	1	341	Apr 30, 2004 by Invictus
	one thing to expect in the near term (Preview) I know many of you are excited that the Hattiesburg American seems behind the profs, as they should be, especially given SFT's treatment of Thames. Just remember that the HA acts like a finger-in-the-wind follower. I fully expect an editorial in the next couple of days talking about ho...	elliott	1	343	Apr 30, 2004 by elliott
	Hanbury's new title (Preview) Doesn't Hanbury's new AG status mean that his employment is no longer subject to the whims of either Shelby or the IHL Board? I think so, which means he go a sort of promotion today.	elliott	4	440	Apr 30, 2004 by margarita
	Latest at Liberty and Power (Preview) I've tried to give the settlement a balanced treatment. Frankly, I found that difficult... I hope my efforts are of some utility. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/4936.html Robert Campbell	Robert Campbell	0	291	Apr 30, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	Myron Henry letter to Mader (Preview) From Myron Henry, Faculty Senate President to 4+3: Good Evening Ms. Lisa Mader: Increasing numbers of faculty are expressing their concern to me as Faculty Senate president that the room where the hearing for Drs. Glamser and Stringer is scheduled to take place will not accommodate very m...	Anonymous	17	1007	Apr 30, 2004 by Senator
	Hattiesburg American (Preview) I find it very interesting that all of a sudden there are a couple articles in the HA that are somewhat anti-USM administration. (The Dvorak publication article and the Faculty Senate article) Are they mad that the "FACTS" they waited for, salivated for, did not exist? Any thoughts?	Missi	7	416	Apr 30, 2004 by Missi
	Where do we go from here? (closed) (Preview) I am posing this as a legitimate question. I hope to at least some legitimate answers. I also realize that I will probably get as much venom and hatred spewed at me as well...but maybe not. I admit I am a supporter of Dr Thames. I am not a blind supporter that believes that he dose no wrong. He has made...	Lanny Mixon	4	355	Apr 30, 2004 by Greedy
	WDAM Viewpoint for 4/29/04 (Preview) WDAM-TV April 29, 2004 No Win for USM	USM Alum	1	404	Apr 30, 2004 by Missi
	Poison On Campus (Preview) Poison on campus! Folks: the next week starts soon, and we have no real changes, except !... There is a vile, grey, underlying fog of distrust (and, in many cases, hatred) that hangs over the campus like a shroud. It is Poison. Even people who are new to USM, even recent visitors,...	HappyFunBall	2	418	Apr 30, 2004 by HappyFunBall
	Southern Miss just became the Berkley of the South (Preview) Well today sent a clear message, the University is being turned over completely to the faculty. You guys won, you got what you wanted. We will have a University that will completely be dominated by a faculty who will have zero accountability to anyone, about anything. You guys will now be all...	Conservative Voice	45	1104	Apr 30, 2004 by Athena
	Why do so many hate the "resolution?" (Preview) I was around the LAB this afternoon when all the news came out. I read the news on the Internet and thought it was basically good. But a lot of the faculty I was around hated the agreement. These faculty used to be 100% behind the professors, and now they think that G&S have betray...	Dunno	11	545	Apr 30, 2004 by Patti
	What will happen? (Preview) College board meets tomorrow. Rumors are going around like wildfire. Latest I hear is that one or both profs will take retirement now in a sweetheart deal. Shelby stays firmly in place and in command. All of us who had hoped Shelby would go down will be disappointed. I can't be sure this...	BouncingBob	23	1001	Apr 30, 2004 by present professor
	hanbury gets AG status (Preview) did you just hear on WDAM that Hanbury got attorney general (AG) status? he can now represent the university in legal matters. holy s**t!	lddad	11	598	Apr 30, 2004 by observer
	Settlement posted (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/6000.html	Chris	24	1194	Apr 30, 2004 by observer
	What it means (Preview) Posted April 30, 2004 1:59 PM. USM settlement released Details of the settlement between the University of Southern Mississippi and professors Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser include: - The university will recommend Angie Dvorak, vice president of research and economic development, will not p...	Distant Supporter of USM	2	412	Apr 30, 2004 by educator
	Clarion Ledger's biased description (Preview) http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040430/NEWS01/40430013USM ends termination proceedings against professors under agreement The Associated Press The state College Board has approved a deal in which two University of Southern Mississippi...	Miles Long	13	633	Apr 30, 2004 by aghast
	Agreement has G & S out? (Preview) I heard a rumour that the agreement has Glamser & Stringer agreeing to retire and getting two years salary. If this is correct they should be ashamed of themselves If this is true, Stinger's statement that integrity still means something at USM should be appended to say - but not a much as...	alum	61	2148	Apr 30, 2004 by Hellgirl
	Full settlement text, Glamser-Stringer statements (Preview) Stringer Glamser Full text	Chris	0	396	Apr 30, 2004 by Chris
	In my best John Wayne voice... (Preview) I've got mah troll zapper out and I'm about to start usin' it. FS	Fire Shelby	4	458	Apr 30, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Phase III (Preview) There is still the little matter of Dr. A. Dvorak and her vita, J. Hanbury/Hanberry and his bogus job, and Mark Dvorak as head of Human Resources. Not to mention Moore, Malone, et. al. None of these issues are resolved.	former-staffer	3	463	Apr 30, 2004 by Hellgirl
	Graduation (Preview) On May 14, Dr. Thames has to stand at the podium and look directly into the faces of a mass of faculty. Two different times. No matter what happens, that is going to be a miserble experience for him. I cannot imagine what his talk is going to be about.	former-staffer	2	453	Apr 30, 2004 by Lewis and Gilbert
	Here's the Settlement (Preview) Posted April 30, 2004 1:59 PM. USM settlement released Details of the settlement between the University of Southern Mississippi and professors Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser include: - The university will recommend Angie Dvorak, vice president of research and economic deve...	Angeline	4	449	Apr 30, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	NEWS (Preview) Hattiesburg American Posted April 30, 2004 1:34 PM. College Board meeting behind closed doors The College Board began meeting shortly after 1 p.m. today and immediately voted to go into executive session to discuss “potential litigation and personnel issues.” The board is meeti...	Newgirl	3	527	Apr 30, 2004 by Chris
	Let's keep one thing in mind about the hearing (Preview) The stated scope of the hearing was the consideration of Shelby terminating Glamser and Stringer. The purpose was to resove Thames firing the two profs. The judge was not charged with evaluating Shelby Thames' job performance (although I would love to hear what he thinks about...	Fire Shelby	5	618	Apr 30, 2004 by Old Librarian
	CC emails to Shelby (Preview) I heard many faculty and students CC'd all their e-mail messages to Shelby yesterday. Pretty funny!	in the know	4	564	Apr 30, 2004 by Websitebrowser
	Going to Jackson? (Preview) Is anybody going to Jackson to the IHL meeting? I just don't want to make things look bad by being the only one there. Of course, that may mean I get my say on TV!	foot soldier	8	545	Apr 30, 2004 by differentname
	Lisa Mader (Preview) I believe I read in a post that Lisa was taking the day off today. Doesn't that seem odd, given the fact that a signifigant decision is due to be released today?	concerned	0	502	Apr 30, 2004 by concerned
	Shredding? (Preview) I heard reports that a paper shredding company truck was parked outside the Dome this morning. Newgirl	Newgirl	29	1292	Apr 30, 2004 by Newgirl
	Capt. Queeg (Preview) Would someone with a literature background like to talk about the relevance of the "Caine Mutiny" to all of this?	Flash Gordon	6	523	Apr 30, 2004 by Athena
	new Glossary entries, 2 guest entries (Preview) If change is good then change it back < chant used by nursing students at a dome rally expressing discontent with the elimination of the College of Nursing through the university restructuring plan that was announced in 2003. 1-2-3, we don’t want a Health degree < chant used by nursing stude...	webster	8	692	Apr 30, 2004 by Athena
	Reponsible University citizens (Preview) None of us know the details of the settlement, but we do know one thing. The evidence presented at the hearing showed clearly that G and S did nothing illegal or unethical. They were good University citizens. What it did show is the repressive nature of the Thames administration....	sad	2	447	Apr 30, 2004 by Hellgirl
	Response to Old Timer (Preview) quote: Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer " Old Timer, just out of curiosity: can you list some specific reasons why you think SFT is a great president of USM? I sincerely am interested in hearing them. From what I can see, he has destroyed the reputation of a university that...	USM Sympathizer	10	584	Apr 30, 2004 by Topplethetop
	IHL Special Meeting today 4/30 (Preview) This may be a repost but the news said this morning that there will be a special meeting today to discuss Thame's recommendation	flyonthewall	1	339	Apr 30, 2004 by flyonthewall
	Sun Herald articles today... (Preview) "Northrup Grummond registration a success" (really? registering 23 students, many of whom will take one class for free, is a "success?") "Southern Miss in running to host US governors" (in 2006) I am posting these here because I want to keep the LBN page on the website free for links to new...	Fire Shelby	1	427	Apr 30, 2004 by Mediahound
	Media coverage yesterday and today (Preview) I was browsing around and saw Matt Hinton's article in the 4/29/04 Student Printz that says the media at the hearing was "strictly local." How accurate is his perception? Assuming it is accurate, why is the popular media not jumping on this story? Even though they love to play t...	friend	3	332	Apr 29, 2004 by friend
	USM on 6 o'clock news (Preview) Not sure, , but I believe WDAM might be a little pi$$ed off at the Thames administration. Did anyone else see it?	wary undergrad	8	562	Apr 29, 2004 by Bosnian eagle
	Donations to LDF and creation of scholarship (Preview) REQUEST FOR DONATIONS TO THE LEGAL DEFENSE FUND: ANNOUNCEMENT OF GLAMSER/STRINGER AAUP SCHOLARSHIP Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer are very grateful for the many generous contributions to their legal defense fund. Whether you have contributed $5 or $500, every...	Fire Shelby	2	366	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Be Logical (Preview) I have looked over the emotional and sometimes hysterical comments regarding the outcome of the Nazi vs Glamser and Stringer case. Let's just examine the plain and simple facts. These men (G&S) had nothing to lose. They can retire comfortably and their academic accomplis...	Seahawk	29	1357	Apr 29, 2004 by present professor
	What if Shelby is right? (closed) (Preview) Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....	Shelby's Right	9	417	Apr 29, 2004 by present professor
	Rumor swirling around campus (Preview) All morning I'd been hearing that Angie Dvorak stormed out of the dome saying she was going on "leave of absence" for an indefinite period of time. Just a minute ago I heard that the story was true, but that it was Lisa Mader. I'm pretty sure by tonight we might hear that it is true for one of th...	MBAgal	8	1273	Apr 29, 2004 by MBAgal
	question for board participants... (Preview) We all know the kinds of beliefs that many of Shelby's supporters (e.g., Billy Hewes, etc.) hold about certain segments of society. We all know that Reuben Anderson is an African American. We all believe SFT clearly lost yesterday. Question: how many times do you think the "n" word wa...	MBAgal	17	736	Apr 29, 2004 by Invictus
	What if Shelby is Wrong? (Preview) "Shelby's Right," I see you keep posting the same email on this website over and over again. So what if Shelby is wrong? What are all his followers going to do? What is SGA going to do? What are YOU going to do? La chica	la chica	0	300	Apr 29, 2004 by la chica
	WAY OFF TOPIC: quick dinner (Preview) First, I apologize for going way off topic and FS can delete this post if she wants. Where can I get some really good grilled fish under $9 other than the Cresent City Grill (for obvious reasons).	hungry	10	467	Apr 29, 2004 by hungry
	What if Shelby is right? (Preview) Fact: Shelby’s actions have all been taken within the system of the university’s governance. He has followed policies and procedures. Fact: G&S have acted outside of the system as evidenced by their e-mails indicating there improper and unwarranted investigation of Dr. Dvorak....	Shelby's Right	0	291	Apr 29, 2004 by Shelby's Right
	ihl meets tomorrow (Preview) wdam just reported the board will meet tomorrow to act on the recommendations.	lddad	9	559	Apr 29, 2004 by Googler
	just talked to mom on the phone.... (Preview) Just got off the phone with my mom. Gave her a 5 minute history of USM's crises. In reference to Thames, she told me to tell everyone on the board don't worry, "he'll get 'his'. . ." Way to go mom! You rock!!!	tomcat	2	391	Apr 29, 2004 by tomcat
	Seating at the hearing (Preview) Anyone else notice that bit from the HA that talked about where the key players' family members sat?? Some on the front, others on the third	educator	13	743	Apr 29, 2004 by present professor
	A short message from Fire Shelby (Preview) I want to thank EVERYONE for the contributions you have made to this website and message board. I give full credit to all of you. You are Fire Shelby. We don't know what will emerge from the IHL meeting. In my excitement, I may have been too eager to interpret yesterday as a complet...	Fire Shelby	16	898	Apr 29, 2004 by Otherside
	USM departures 4/29/04 (Preview) Billie Allen, Professor of Management (retirement) David Anderson, VP Facilities/Physical Plant (State of Mississippi) Ann Beardshall, Coordinator Delta Nutrition Project (retirement) Wayne Billon, Associate Professor of NFS (Western Carolina University) Tyrone Black, Profe...	babbs	0	306	Apr 29, 2004 by babbs
	The enemy of your enemy is not your friend! (Preview) I hope that the emergency board meeting tomorrow does not mean that the Provost will slide into the President's spot...	They've all got to go	1	425	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Quick question about downtime on the board (Preview) Did the board "hiccup" for anyone else awhile ago--about 20 minutes ago? I am thinking about setting up an alternate board, just in case this board ever crashes. Thanks, FS	Fire Shelby	7	438	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Post on the hearing at Liberty and Power (Preview) I've posted an item on yesterday's hearing at Liberty and Power http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/4908.html Even after following the events closely on the Message Board yesterday, I found the hearing hard to write about in a concise fashion. I plan to write about the consequences of the...	Robert Campbell	4	455	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	IHL (Preview) Shouldnt the IHL be questioned about their original decision to appoint the lawyer who ended up representing Thames to "ensure fairness" in the hearing? Seems to me at best this was a very poor decision bringing into question the board's competence, and at worst it was an attempt to influen...	Outside OBSERVER	2	436	Apr 29, 2004 by sport
	Gnome Sightings (Preview) Have their been any gnome sightings today? Is he in his office? Is the door closed? Is he "vacationing in Texas again?"	Outiside Observer	5	654	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Let's talk email viruses... (Preview) I just checked my bulk mail inbox. In it were emails with viruses attached from Eagle Talk, the IHL, the National Association of Foreign Studies, and the Printz. I know that the Printz did not maliciously try to infect me. But perhaps someome has sent them an email worm and it is b...	Fire Shelby	16	660	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Possibly stupid idea (Preview) Y'all feel free to shoot this down -- but when is commencement? What would happen if a bunch of outsiders, like me, who are entitled to wear academic regalia, showed up wearing such? I own my own hood and cap, it would involve renting a gown. Could we get enough gowns in time? W...	former-staffer	6	601	Apr 29, 2004 by former-staffer
	Facinating comment on the petition (Preview) . Adrienne R. Studaway I have a 1 million dollar life insurance policy that names the University of Southern Mississippi as one of the three beneficiaries. Thames is leading me to rethink that choice...	USM Sympathizer	3	421	Apr 29, 2004 by stephen judd
	So where was the Chronicle yesterday? (Preview) Was a reporter present at the hearing?	Fire Shelby	1	397	Apr 29, 2004 by foot soldier
	Post by Offmychest that everyone should read (Preview) Offmychest, I hope that you don't mind that I took the liberty to start a new thread with your post, but everyone does need to read this. Please let me know if you mind. By Offmychest 4/29/04: Up to now, I've been a silent (but very interested) observer on this board. But I have to...	Fire Shelby	10	857	Apr 29, 2004 by aghast
	Roy Klumb speaks in the HA (Preview) After reading the article in the HA by Nikki Davis Maute, it is very apparent to me that Klumb intends to "sit" on the settlement issue until the May 20th meeting. If I am not mistaken, I believe that Justice Anderson requested that the settlement be addressed ASAP so that the "healing at the univ...	wary undergrad	6	581	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Hey, Eagle Talk folks, does this look like... (Preview) a guy who "won" to you? This photo was taken, I believe, after the hearing reconvened and Anderson announced a settlement. Perhaps the Printz photog can tell us if it was taken before the annoucement, but I believe it's from after. Not a happy camper if you ask me!	Fire Shelby	3	479	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	The Roaming Gnome (Preview) ...	Outside Observer	0	376	Apr 29, 2004 by Outside Observer
	Dumb, Klumb (Preview) From HA: Klumb, who was quoted in the same March 11 Hattiesburg American story as having spoken with Thames, reiterated his prior knowledge of the changes. "He informed us that he was fixing to make a personnel change that he felt was in the best interest of the university," Klumb said, "and he sai...	educator	5	416	Apr 29, 2004 by wary undergrad
	Kudos to the Opinion Editor of the Hat-Am! (Preview) Public awaits answers to key questions EDITORIALS Questions. Lots of questions. That's what the public is left with following the surprising conclusion Wednesday to the termination hearings for two University of Southern Mississippi professors. Ever since March 5, when USM Pr...	Fire Shelby	5	542	Apr 29, 2004 by former-staffer
	sanitized web sites (Preview) I thought someone said they had sanitized all the web sites. Before initiating her work in Mississippi, Dvorak served as president and CEO of Ashland Community College in Ashland, Kentucky. She concurrently held a tenured academic appointment as an associate professor at the Univers...	Outside Observer	0	350	Apr 29, 2004 by Outside Observer
	Eagle Talk (Preview) Does anyone know anything about a chat forum called Eagle Talk? Apparently, it's some forum filled with pro-Shelboos who were celebrating Thames' awesome presentation yesterday, and saying that he won the case, etc. I imagine there aren't more than 32 members participating (at lea...	truth4usm	6	561	Apr 29, 2004 by Fire Shelby
	Here's what I am hearing (Preview) The agreement could not have been reached without IHL approval for Anderson to stop the hearing and begin mediation. Anderson must have received word from IHL to end the embarrassing hearing (and folks, if you could have been there--it was very EMBARRASSING for Thames and any of his supporte...	Fire Shelby	3	615	Apr 29, 2004 by truth4usm
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